Alie Ward

But before your crotch, let's get back to your head.

Why do you think, right off the bat, there is still such a stigma?

As a culture, we love sex.

We love sexy things.

Yes.

It might be a badge of honor for some people in terms of how many partners they've had or how desired they are.

Yet, why is it like...

Something that absolutely no one other than you and the people who are doing outreach in the field typically like to talk about.

Do you find that that's true with other cultures or other religious bases?

Or is it mostly Judeo-Christian or in other parts of the world?

Is there still that much stigma or that much moral oversight into sexual behavior?

It always cracks me up that like you could make out with someone at a bar.

Not a big deal.

Absolutely.

Well, you know, whatever.

Maybe a big deal.

But you can make out with someone, swap all kinds of things in your wet mouths.

But it's so much less stigma than if you had sex with someone who using protection.

Right.

Which is so interesting to me.