Alie Ward

It might be a badge of honor for some people in terms of how many partners they've had or how desired they are.

Yet, why is it like...

Something that absolutely no one other than you and the people who are doing outreach in the field typically like to talk about.

Do you find that that's true with other cultures or other religious bases?

Or is it mostly Judeo-Christian or in other parts of the world?

Is there still that much stigma or that much moral oversight into sexual behavior?

It always cracks me up that like you could make out with someone at a bar.

Not a big deal.

Absolutely.

Well, you know, whatever.

Maybe a big deal.

But you can make out with someone, swap all kinds of things in your wet mouths.

But it's so much less stigma than if you had sex with someone who using protection.

Right.

Which is so interesting to me.

But again, going back to like moral stuff, but.

When it comes to getting tested, because like those two words are like getting tested, that's hard to talk about with partners.

But also I think a lot of people are like, for which ones though?

Which ones can you test for?

Which ones are covered by insurance?