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Okay? Don't. Don't be a dumb bitch. He already was, though. What was... On the rewatch.
It feels like 2025 is just bringing out the dumb bitches. I don't know what it is. We were so hopeful. We were. But you know, it's okay. It's still great. Yeah. In some ways. In like one. One way. One way, sure. Yeah, or another. Yeah, one way or another. But yeah, go listen to Scream if you want to. Hey! You know? Anyway. But yeah, that was a dumb bitch thing to say.
It feels like 2025 is just bringing out the dumb bitches. I don't know what it is. We were so hopeful. We were. But you know, it's okay. It's still great. Yeah. In some ways. In like one. One way. One way, sure. Yeah, or another. Yeah, one way or another. But yeah, go listen to Scream if you want to. Hey! You know? Anyway. But yeah, that was a dumb bitch thing to say.
Among the more promising leads, though, was a tip from another, about another former boyfriend, Joseph Fickling, who she met in California in 1944. Like Matt Gordon, Fickling was a former Air Force pilot living in North Carolina, and the two had been writing back and forth as recently as Elizabeth's time in San Diego.
Among the more promising leads, though, was a tip from another, about another former boyfriend, Joseph Fickling, who she met in California in 1944. Like Matt Gordon, Fickling was a former Air Force pilot living in North Carolina, and the two had been writing back and forth as recently as Elizabeth's time in San Diego.
So very, very, like, recent to when she died. Yep. Fickling told detectives, she told me not to write her anymore at San Diego and that she was in Chicago, or that she was going to Chicago, excuse me. Oh. In April 1947, Fickling started to suspect he was only one of Elizabeth's romantic interests. Well, And that her expression of love for him might have been disingenuous.
So very, very, like, recent to when she died. Yep. Fickling told detectives, she told me not to write her anymore at San Diego and that she was in Chicago, or that she was going to Chicago, excuse me. Oh. In April 1947, Fickling started to suspect he was only one of Elizabeth's romantic interests. Well, And that her expression of love for him might have been disingenuous.
He wrote in April to her, you say in your letter you want us to be good friends, but from your wire you seem you want more than that.
He wrote in April to her, you say in your letter you want us to be good friends, but from your wire you seem you want more than that.
Now, based on the letters between them that investigators discovered among Elizabeth's belongings, Fickling's confusion and Elizabeth's ambivalence eventually led to the end of their relationship. Yeah. He wrote in one letter, in your letter, you mentioned a ring from Matt. You gave no further explanation. I really don't understand. I wouldn't want to interfere. OK, well, he seems respectful.
Now, based on the letters between them that investigators discovered among Elizabeth's belongings, Fickling's confusion and Elizabeth's ambivalence eventually led to the end of their relationship. Yeah. He wrote in one letter, in your letter, you mentioned a ring from Matt. You gave no further explanation. I really don't understand. I wouldn't want to interfere. OK, well, he seems respectful.
He does. Like, that's a pretty respectful thing to say. Like, hey, you just mentioned that another guy gave you an engagement ring. So, like, I don't want to interfere in that. I'm going to I'm going to bow out.
He does. Like, that's a pretty respectful thing to say. Like, hey, you just mentioned that another guy gave you an engagement ring. So, like, I don't want to interfere in that. I'm going to I'm going to bow out.
The letters indicate that Elizabeth had told Fickling about her proposed marriage to Matt Gordon, but failed to mention that Gordon had died two years earlier. Okay. That's an interesting play.
The letters indicate that Elizabeth had told Fickling about her proposed marriage to Matt Gordon, but failed to mention that Gordon had died two years earlier. Okay. That's an interesting play.
Yeah. In an interview with Charlotte, North Carolina detectives, Fickling said he'd last heard from Elizabeth in a letter dated January 8th, 1947, the night she left San Diego. Oh, wow. And he hadn't heard from her since. Yeah. And given that he was on the other side of the country when she was killed, he was quickly ruled out as a suspect.
Yeah. In an interview with Charlotte, North Carolina detectives, Fickling said he'd last heard from Elizabeth in a letter dated January 8th, 1947, the night she left San Diego. Oh, wow. And he hadn't heard from her since. Yeah. And given that he was on the other side of the country when she was killed, he was quickly ruled out as a suspect.
But they just got like a little more insight into what was going on in her life, I guess. A few days into their investigation, detectives learned that when she returned from San Diego, Elizabeth had been traveling in the company of, quote, an unidentified red-haired man.
But they just got like a little more insight into what was going on in her life, I guess. A few days into their investigation, detectives learned that when she returned from San Diego, Elizabeth had been traveling in the company of, quote, an unidentified red-haired man.
On January 20th, detectives picked up 25-year-old Robert Manley, a salesman the press described as, quote, slender, neatly dressed man with carrot-hued hair. Not carrot. Not carrot-hued. Not carrot top over here. And he was believed to have been with Elizabeth on the night she disappeared. Uh-oh.