Alison Morrow

Right. And that psychological operation, whatever you want to call it, was so effective with journalists. And they bought into it hook, line, and sinker and were just believing, like you said, that all these people that were going rogue against the CDC were some kind of fringe weirdos, you know, that just didn't know science. And it just didn't make any sense. Murderers.

Right. And that psychological operation, whatever you want to call it, was so effective with journalists. And they bought into it hook, line, and sinker and were just believing, like you said, that all these people that were going rogue against the CDC were some kind of fringe weirdos, you know, that just didn't know science. And it just didn't make any sense. Murderers.

Yeah. No, yeah, truly. And then also, there was also this lie that it was like just the disinformation dozen. You know, just a dozen people. You know, I have chickens. I know what a dozen is. Just a dozen. It fits in your little egg carton. And, you know, it's not any more than that, questioning what's going on here.

Yeah. No, yeah, truly. And then also, there was also this lie that it was like just the disinformation dozen. You know, just a dozen people. You know, I have chickens. I know what a dozen is. Just a dozen. It fits in your little egg carton. And, you know, it's not any more than that, questioning what's going on here.

And so a lot of these journalists, you know, I think they didn't do their research. And they're just like, oh, it's just a few people, so let's just go after them. And that was... again, one of the reasons I decided to start interviewing these people personally, I just wanted to know what was really going on, but also I just wanted to show like, look, these people are at Stanford.

And so a lot of these journalists, you know, I think they didn't do their research. And they're just like, oh, it's just a few people, so let's just go after them. And that was... again, one of the reasons I decided to start interviewing these people personally, I just wanted to know what was really going on, but also I just wanted to show like, look, these people are at Stanford.

They're at the university of California. They're not, not, not that I have anything against an underground bunker. I live in Florida. I would probably have one if it wouldn't flood, but this is not where these people were coming from. And I just would like, Oh man, it was just mind blowing to me that

They're at the university of California. They're not, not, not that I have anything against an underground bunker. I live in Florida. I would probably have one if it wouldn't flood, but this is not where these people were coming from. And I just would like, Oh man, it was just mind blowing to me that

That you that you could so easily turn them into complete extremist quacks when it's like these people are just you're like run of the mill doctors. You know, they're just people who have been in business and practice for decades and they're they're totally normal.

That you that you could so easily turn them into complete extremist quacks when it's like these people are just you're like run of the mill doctors. You know, they're just people who have been in business and practice for decades and they're they're totally normal.

Yes, I didn't because I tried. He was very busy at the time. And yeah, and I have a small- He's in Belgium. Yeah, he's in Belgium. No, but I know who he is, yeah.

Yes, I didn't because I tried. He was very busy at the time. And yeah, and I have a small- He's in Belgium. Yeah, he's in Belgium. No, but I know who he is, yeah.

Okay. The first question was why, right? Why did I see it and other people didn't? It's a million dollar question why some people saw it and other people didn't. I ask almost every guest that comes on my show, especially like in the COVID era, why? And there's so many different reasons. I'm a Christian. I truly believe that it's a spiritual blindness. I think there's just a lack of self-awareness.

Okay. The first question was why, right? Why did I see it and other people didn't? It's a million dollar question why some people saw it and other people didn't. I ask almost every guest that comes on my show, especially like in the COVID era, why? And there's so many different reasons. I'm a Christian. I truly believe that it's a spiritual blindness. I think there's just a lack of self-awareness.

I think you have to, you know, we were talking about how I went to graduate school at the reason that I was going to go into addiction counseling was because I had a loved one who was basically dying of a heroin addiction. And I told a professor when I was working at this methadone clinic about why I wanted to be a psychotherapist. And he said, He said, all right, give me it.

I think you have to, you know, we were talking about how I went to graduate school at the reason that I was going to go into addiction counseling was because I had a loved one who was basically dying of a heroin addiction. And I told a professor when I was working at this methadone clinic about why I wanted to be a psychotherapist. And he said, He said, all right, give me it.

And I, well, I have this loved one who I can't save, so I'm going to go save other people. And he looked at me and was like, that is a terrible reason to want to be a psychologist to project all of your issues onto somebody else. You know, have you ever thought about going to therapy? And I was like, uh, I don't know. I was kind of offended, but I decided to do it.

And I, well, I have this loved one who I can't save, so I'm going to go save other people. And he looked at me and was like, that is a terrible reason to want to be a psychologist to project all of your issues onto somebody else. You know, have you ever thought about going to therapy? And I was like, uh, I don't know. I was kind of offended, but I decided to do it.

And that was why I ended up getting back into the news business because I got it all out of my system. And I was like, I don't want to work with drug addicts. I'm not good at it. This is not fun. I'm going to go back into reporting. But I think that process set me up to be in a position where I had done a lot of, of just like facing myself on hard issues. And I learned that

And that was why I ended up getting back into the news business because I got it all out of my system. And I was like, I don't want to work with drug addicts. I'm not good at it. This is not fun. I'm going to go back into reporting. But I think that process set me up to be in a position where I had done a lot of, of just like facing myself on hard issues. And I learned that