Alison O'Connor

And I mean, I think Simon Harris did characterize it like this, that you can't have one group of people, a lot of whom are working, getting free accommodation.

So do you think Ukrainians living here should possibly have integrated into society at this stage and not need free accommodation or not need subsidized accommodation in people's houses?

In fairness, can we just say on the fifth anniversary, nobody expected this to be going on for four years.

Yeah, but we made a decision about this war, a country in Europe that was invaded.

And we do have a system for people who are needed in those areas to come in and work here, don't we?

And in fairness to Shane and I, there was a report during the week, I think, and I know I forget where it was from, but I saw the justice minister talking about it as well.

And there is there.

They do seem to have research that shows that far right talking points have a disproportionate influence on the conversation.

And the justice minister was warning against

the centre moving too far in response to amplified voices.

Yeah, I completely understand it.

But I think the point was about that.

It can seem sometimes if certain voices are amplified that, oh, everything, everyone thinks this or this is more acceptable thing to think.

And it can broaden the Overton envelope of what is acceptable in mainstream politics.

Alison, you want to come back in a while ago.

Sorry.

The abuse that they get as a result of... Hang on, are you suggesting Niall and shows like his or conversations like his are creating a certain atmosphere?

Are you feeding off this sour milk of people's worst instincts?

There was a light-hearted one in December.

There was a lot of light-hearted ones by the way.