Alistair Campbell

So he did the one to Trump basically saying, you know, I've served five tours in Afghanistan.

Kindly, please don't insult our comrades who died serving in Afghanistan.

The next day, he did a video where he basically said, I've just been for a two hour run with a 15 kilogram machine.

backpack.

He's a bit like you.

And he looked, just wasn't even out of breath.

I will never forget their courage, their bravery.

and the sacrifice that they made for their country.

And so I consider President Trump's remarks to be insulting and frankly appalling.

Where I'm going to side with you a bit, I'm going to give you a quote from Abraham Lincoln, who, as you know, is one of my sort of political heroes.

There's three degrees.

God, yeah.

Abraham Lincoln famously brought in his opponents to build his team, so-called team of rivals.

And he explained it as this.

We needed the strongest men of the party in the cabinet.

We needed to hold our own people together.

I had looked the party over and concluded these were the very strongest men.

I had no right to deprive the country of their services.

Right, brilliant.

And that's the case for Keir Starmer saying, whatever the threat to me, Andy Burnham's pretty good.