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Alistair Marsh

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Bloomberg Tech
Dell Raises AI Server Sales Outlook While HP Cuts Jobs

Well, essentially the Schneider Electric data shows that the massive amount of power demand, so power demand in the US has basically been flat for about two decades, and all of a sudden with the advent of AI, or the vast AI acceleration that we're seeing in the US, with the billions of dollars of Capex being put to work and the mass build out of data centers, you suddenly have this surge in demand.

Bloomberg Tech
Dell Raises AI Server Sales Outlook While HP Cuts Jobs

Add to that increased electrification, add to that onshoring of manufacturing,

Bloomberg Tech
Dell Raises AI Server Sales Outlook While HP Cuts Jobs

And you suddenly have this sort of crisis moment where the energy infrastructure in the US has not been invested in and not been built out particularly aggressively for a period, meets a very aggressive build out of AI.

Bloomberg Tech
Dell Raises AI Server Sales Outlook While HP Cuts Jobs

And so we're going to reach, according to the Schneider data, we're going to reach a crunch point in about

Bloomberg Tech
Dell Raises AI Server Sales Outlook While HP Cuts Jobs

three years in 2028, that's the moment they say that the supply available on the system will no longer be able to meet demand unless we start eating into emergency reserves of power, which are saved for moments of extreme weather or cyber attacks and so forth, all of which means that the grid is basically going to become under increased strain and going to be increasingly vulnerable.

Bloomberg Tech
Dell Raises AI Server Sales Outlook While HP Cuts Jobs

Short answer is no.

Bloomberg Tech
Dell Raises AI Server Sales Outlook While HP Cuts Jobs

I mean, you're kind to let me not weigh into U.S.

Bloomberg Tech
Dell Raises AI Server Sales Outlook While HP Cuts Jobs

politics, but there is both a political issue here.

Bloomberg Tech
Dell Raises AI Server Sales Outlook While HP Cuts Jobs

I mean, you see it with recently power prices are on the ballot in New Jersey and they'll be increasingly on the ballot and that could turn against the AI build out.

Bloomberg Tech
Dell Raises AI Server Sales Outlook While HP Cuts Jobs

if there's a political groundswell against that.

Bloomberg Tech
Dell Raises AI Server Sales Outlook While HP Cuts Jobs

But also there's a geopolitical element here where the US is in a race with China to become the AI superpower.

Bloomberg Tech
Dell Raises AI Server Sales Outlook While HP Cuts Jobs

And China has, while you could argue that the US has the advantage in terms of tech and chips, actually China has a structural advantage with cheaper abundant power.

Bloomberg Tech
Dell Raises AI Server Sales Outlook While HP Cuts Jobs

And that might be, according to some analysts, something that wins out in the long run.

Bloomberg Tech
Dell Raises AI Server Sales Outlook While HP Cuts Jobs

And so what Schneider is saying here, to go back to actually answer your question, is that

Bloomberg Tech
Dell Raises AI Server Sales Outlook While HP Cuts Jobs

No, you can't fix this in the three-year period because you can't build enough generation and enough transmission in that period because most of those projects would take 10 years to build.

Bloomberg Tech
Dell Raises AI Server Sales Outlook While HP Cuts Jobs

Therefore, you need to find ways at the margin, what are sometimes called grid-enhancing technologies, battery storage, microgrids, other things that can build out extra capacity that don't require those large, long infrastructure build-outs that just won't be ready in time.