Allie Ward

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And if you stick around until the very end, I give you a little nugget of a secret.

This week, it's a little behind the scenes.

We actually recorded portions of this episode in October 2023.

And although it was fascinating, Dr. McKendrick is the best and crushed it.

We have held onto it because so many terrible bummer things were happening in the world, and we've been putting out more topical episodes to address them.

And I just had a hard time throwing evil at you as well, especially when it wasn't spooktober.

And then a month or so ago, we re-recorded an updated interview with...

And it all came together beautifully.

And I think that it hatched at just the right time.