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and see if it matches the DNA profile of unknown male number one. In the meantime, Ken Lawson and everyone else at the Hawaii Innocence Project has to keep their mouths shut and not tell anyone about this new lead. Even their clients, Ian and Sean.

and see if it matches the DNA profile of unknown male number one. In the meantime, Ken Lawson and everyone else at the Hawaii Innocence Project has to keep their mouths shut and not tell anyone about this new lead. Even their clients, Ian and Sean.

So after the Hawaii Police Department pulls a fork used by Albert Laurel Jr., things stay quiet as they wait for the results of the testing. Then finally, on July 1st, 2024, the results come in, and they confirm that the DNA found at the crime scene of Dana Ireland's attack is indeed connected to Albert Laurel Jr.,

So after the Hawaii Police Department pulls a fork used by Albert Laurel Jr., things stay quiet as they wait for the results of the testing. Then finally, on July 1st, 2024, the results come in, and they confirm that the DNA found at the crime scene of Dana Ireland's attack is indeed connected to Albert Laurel Jr.,

The lab notifies both the Hawaii Innocence Project and the Hawaii Police Department. But the ball is in the Hawaii Police Department's court at this point.

The lab notifies both the Hawaii Innocence Project and the Hawaii Police Department. But the ball is in the Hawaii Police Department's court at this point.

And the more they stay quiet, and the longer they take to do something, the more the team at the Hawaii Innocence Project becomes concerned that whatever nonsense happened behind the scenes that led to Sean and Ian's wrongful conviction is the same nonsense happening behind the scenes today.

And the more they stay quiet, and the longer they take to do something, the more the team at the Hawaii Innocence Project becomes concerned that whatever nonsense happened behind the scenes that led to Sean and Ian's wrongful conviction is the same nonsense happening behind the scenes today.

As Ken Lawson and the Hawaii Innocence Project try to figure out just what the heck is going on with Albert Laurel Jr., they are set off on a bit of a wild goose chase.

As Ken Lawson and the Hawaii Innocence Project try to figure out just what the heck is going on with Albert Laurel Jr., they are set off on a bit of a wild goose chase.

After the Hawaii Innocence Project team reaches out to the attorney general and prosecutors demanding to know the suspect's whereabouts, they receive an immediate response that prompts an emergency Zoom meeting between the Hawaii Innocence Project and prosecutors Shannon Kagawa and Michael Kagame.

After the Hawaii Innocence Project team reaches out to the attorney general and prosecutors demanding to know the suspect's whereabouts, they receive an immediate response that prompts an emergency Zoom meeting between the Hawaii Innocence Project and prosecutors Shannon Kagawa and Michael Kagame.

During this call, Ken and the prosecutors go back and forth about the whereabouts of their suspect, Albert Laurel Jr., because Ken thinks it's a terrible mistake for police to tell Laurel Jr. that he's a suspect, bring him into swab, and then just let him go. That just isn't acceptable. The prosecution disagrees with Ken's idea of, quote, best practices, but they're playing coy.

During this call, Ken and the prosecutors go back and forth about the whereabouts of their suspect, Albert Laurel Jr., because Ken thinks it's a terrible mistake for police to tell Laurel Jr. that he's a suspect, bring him into swab, and then just let him go. That just isn't acceptable. The prosecution disagrees with Ken's idea of, quote, best practices, but they're playing coy.

All of this to say, by the vibe of the conversation, Ken is feeling confident that Laurel Jr. isn't in some jail somewhere or being held by Hawaii PD. He's sure they've let him go. So he pushes and pushes, trying to get someone to tell him the actual truth.

All of this to say, by the vibe of the conversation, Ken is feeling confident that Laurel Jr. isn't in some jail somewhere or being held by Hawaii PD. He's sure they've let him go. So he pushes and pushes, trying to get someone to tell him the actual truth.

Concerned that their suspect, who was very much alive at the time Steve Kramer and Steve Bush identified him as Dana Ireland's killer, is now not, Ken Lawson starts making more calls.

Concerned that their suspect, who was very much alive at the time Steve Kramer and Steve Bush identified him as Dana Ireland's killer, is now not, Ken Lawson starts making more calls.

That's next in Chapter 8, which you can listen to next week.

That's next in Chapter 8, which you can listen to next week.