Amanda McKenzie

Well, the New South Wales government is going through their process at the moment and they've recently accepted submissions.

And so we've been engaged in that process, which is an important one.

And I think government is actively grappling with a number of these issues and not just the environmental and climate issues, but also the range of other issues in how it affects the community.

But this report was an opportunity for us to really make sure that we'd gone into the detail about what are the risks and then what are the solutions to those risks.

and to then take those recommendations to government.

So this is a report, as you said, and we will be actively bringing that to federal politicians as well as at the state level as well.

I'm not a big fan of asking every individual to make their own choices, which can often make their life more difficult.

If we have to change the system, the water that everyone's swimming in, rather than asking individuals to change their own personal behaviour.

It's like if you say in the street and you're like, well, I'm not going to use AI because I'm going to be the one that's like reducing a tiny bit of power, but everyone else in the street is using it.

It's a pretty disempowering experience.

So I think it's about getting the laws and regulations right.

And it is a little bit like the Wild West experience.

globally in this at the moment, particularly with the United States, with Donald Trump flouting international law, et cetera, it means that countries like Australia as a democratic, stable middle power actually is a significant player in all of this.

Because if you're an AI operator like Claude and the US government, you're in a fight with the US government, you never know when the rug's going to be pulled out from under you.

So it's no surprise that Claude in particular, or sorry, Anthropic is looking in Australia for opportunities because we're a stable Western democracy.

So it's an opportunity for Australia to really think deeply about if we are attractive because we've got great renewables, we've got this stable political environment, we've

We've got land, et cetera.

How can we help the world get some of these things right?

Because we might have a higher proportion of data centres than other places.

So I think there's opportunities in how we regulate children's content, for instance, through those data centres.