Amanda Meng

And I think they also want to control information.

So I think certain journalists get white sims, so certain journalists.

People who are trusted information sources are allowed to have connectivity.

Also, I don't know that we're seeing this right now, but with the Women Live Freedom movement in 2022, they were just shutting down mobile connectivity.

And that was to mitigate against the economic cost of these shutdowns.

Because when you're taking everything down, the economy is going to be affected, right?

So being able to be more precise with how you implement this and be more sophisticated, you're definitely increasing some of the costs that are in a way political costs as well.

Amanda, what about you?

I mean, there's certainly questions about sovereignty, like sovereignty of a state, and how the internet shows up in that.

Ukraine was definitely coming to mind as Alberto was talking about centralized versus decentralized networks.

And, you know, we saw Ukraine be much more resilient because of how decentralized their internet is.

Yeah, I mean, different context, but still that... But that made a difference.

Yeah.

And then I think, you know, this question of how to participate in civic life and how to be able to not just mobilize around a protest, but mobilize resources in general.

The Internet is still playing a part in that.

Yeah, I mean, I think the first thing is, is connection to loved ones.

That's one of the first things we hear from

Our partners is trying to get a hold of your brother or your mother or your father.

Where are you?

Are you safe?