Amanda Parker

That and if you're successful, right?

It doesn't really matter.

Yeah, yeah.

So like it's kind of, it'll be like a rounding error in the end.

So it's better terms for the founders and that's what they are really kind of incentivizing, right?

Is that the founders want to,

go hard, make changes, and not have to worry about doing all these interest calculations and worrying about, oh, do I need to take this VC deal now because it's going to cost me more later?

It really, in the end, if you're successful, everybody's going to win.

Everybody's going to get rich.

And if you're not, then who cares?

Yeah, I mean, there are some mechanisms that you put in place.

Ultimately, like, they don't want to bankrupt the business because then nobody's going to win.

So my personal Twitter handle is at Uncanny Mandy.

They can follow us at Simply Insight or visit our website, simplyinsight.co.

No, what time is it?

So Predictable Revenue and Lean Startup.

So obviously, Jason Lemkin.

And then there are some fantastic founders in Toronto like Dan Tebow and Jonas Brandon that have been fantastic mentors.

Yeah, so my favorite online tool right now is called Zoom.ai, and it's essentially a bot, a digital assistant bot that helps you do all the meeting scheduling, all the calendaring, all the research that you need before meetings.

No.