Amanda Scott

This is one of the most exciting and thought-provoking and inspiring books I have come across this year.

And I am so grateful that you connected with me and suggested that I read it because it's opened a lot of doors

and brought me again to the edge of realising how thin is the ice on which we are currently skating.

And you are a professor of literature and the environment.

And before we dive into the book, even just that, the fact that there is a professor of literature and the environment, which feels such a thoughtful and generative and a Thrutopian thing to be.

And I basically want to come and do a PhD with you, but I don't know how I'd fund it or...

managed because you're in Edinburgh and I'm in Shropshire however how did you come to be that was this something you went to Edinburgh and said hey we need to bring these two things together because generally one is in humanities and one is in science and that needs not to be a thing or did Edinburgh come to you tell us how that happened it happened very organically um you know I've been in Edinburgh for about 15 years now and around the time I came here coincided with um

How cool is that?

Yeah, they're questions for every single living human.

Yes.

And he says we'll blame politicians and bureaucrats for their failure to act.

But actually, future generations will also blame creatives because it's not the job of politicians and bureaucrats to imagine different futures.

And I would say if they were capable of imagining different futures, they wouldn't have their jobs because the current system is not set up to foster people who imagine different futures.

Although...

I now have friends who are MPs who are very capable of imagining different futures.

So I'm a bit more careful than I was.

But thank you.

This is, oh gosh, now I want to set up our shamanic monastery near to Edinburgh because we need to be working with you on this.

I don't know, I'll persuade everyone else that we need to move, but we're in the kind of formative stages.

So guys, this might be a thing.