Amanda

25% of our seniors survive on less than $15,000 a year.

We have the highest rate of childhood poverty of almost any major country on earth.

And working people, unsurprisingly, live far shorter lives than the rich.

This is not natural.

This is not how it has always been.

This is a political decision and we can and must make a different one.

This is a Jenga piece we have to pull out.

I'm delighted to bring into this conversation Anand Giridharadas.

We talk about billionaires, what the Epstein files reveal about their rules, what the Mandani election reveals about who they are.

And by the end of this conversation,

You will never again hear the phrase win-win or hear of a billionaire philanthropist without questioning both deeply.

You will see why Lean In and other ultra-elite faux solutions are propagandist bullshit.

And you will have reason to be deeply hopeful that as much as we are in the throes of crisis and injustice, we are also on the precipice of a new progressive era in which we will get to have nice things.

nice things that much of the world already enjoys.

I am delighted to be today with Anan Girdedas to talk about the bullshit stories and rules of billionaires.

Anan Girdedas is the author of the New York Times bestseller, The Persuaders, the international bestseller, Winners Take All,

The True American, and India Calling.

A former foreign correspondent and columnist for the New York Times, he is an on-air political analyst for MSNBC and publisher of the newsletter, The Inc.

Thank you for being here, Anand.

Thank you.