Amanda

Our interests are so more aligned than the literally eight people who own half...

of what America owns.

What is that story and how do we get across it?

Because the lines are more intractable than ever in terms of who we believe is responsible for why we don't have nice things.

Yes.

We can have cookies.

The circle goes all the way around until it meets in the middle.

Everything you're saying leads me to the Epstein files because there are no true believers here.

These people are agnostic.

I mean, look at Trump.

He was like a Democrat and believed in abortion, giving money to Democrats for however long until he saw a strategic change.

power structure that could advance him until he realized he could use the tools that he knew about the psychology of people to manipulate them into believing

Something that would advance him.

The binaries that are set up, the liberal conservative, the black and white, all of those are actually made up things to divide us when actually the loyalty that exists within this power elite is infinite.

Only loyalty to their own concentration of power, to their own impunity, to their own ability to serve their own interests.

So I'm so interested in what you have learned from your full read of the Epstein files, because to me, that pulls the curtain back.

Even Dems right now are like, well, I know who the bad guy is.

and it's those right-wing conservatives, when in fact it's much more complicated and much more simple than that.

Studying a culture.

You are studying a culture.