Amelia Lester

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I think it's sort of an indictment on the fact that we do think that girls need to be policed and surveyed in a way that we don't think that boys need to be.

Well, I mean, not really.

Again, neither of us did anything wrong.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I felt that it was more about the fact that everyone in that train carriage was watching the girl and what she was doing.

They were not watching the boy.

The boy could have been climbing from the roof.

In fact, he probably was and no one was watching him.

Well, then that culminates with the glam bot.

You're going to be watched more, like to put your final point on it.

Like you're going to be scrutinized more.

Pretty inarguably her career has suffered from that.

Like I think ever since then she's kind of retreated a little bit from the public conversation and I think it's because we don't really want to hear from a woman being difficult in that way.

And rejecting our gaze.

I think Jan Garner's got the upper hand right now.

Also, do you think you would end up putting clothes on your reformer?

You know how there's that chair in your bedroom that gets all the clothes?

Yeah, of course.

Can I be clear that I was extremely uncool in high school?