Amin El-Hassan

Yeah, I mean, the first sound is, I guess, just emblematic of the era or the generation he's from.

There are a lot of people who feel that way, right?

Like, oh, you can't show weakness and your family's depending on you and all that.

So I don't think guys find it shocking.

I wasn't shocked to hear that.

I think, again, men of a certain age, that's the prevailing notion.

The second sound is funny because...

Charlamagne is asking him a pretty simple question.

Have you ever told your friend, hey, man, you're kind of messing up on this one?

And Dana is trying to take every single exit ramp into, I don't tell, he's trying to say, I don't get involved.

But we know he does get involved.

We know there are other issues that he has been not afraid to voice his opinion about.

Those opinions happen to be the ones that he agrees with the president on.

So the reality is he's basically painted a picture where that's exactly what you are, Dana White.

Well, I think there's a positive and a negative to all this stuff.

The positive is, despite all the high-profile Waymo messing up examples, we know that humans are awful drivers, right?

And if we reach a point where the majority of the cars on the road are automated, we will eliminate a lot of accidents, a lot of needless deaths, drunk driving deaths, texting while driving deaths, of people just being people and being irresponsible.

The flip side is you are eliminating a massive, massive population of people who work as drivers, whether it's limousines, cab drivers, Uber drivers, DoorDash, all of these jobs, especially in a time when the economy isn't doing great.

People are finding ways to either supplement their income or wholly just survive on driving a car, driving their car, driving someone else's car.

And if we get to a place where that entire industry is eliminated, think about all the different types of drivers there are, delivery trucks, all that stuff.