Amin Elhassan

in no uncertain terms.

And by the way, I think that's something that Bob Hurley would be like, yeah.

And Danny Hurley would also say, yeah, about himself because it's part of the persona.

It's to be aggrandizing and kind of rough around the edges and a bad, ill-mannered, I should say, ill-mannered kind of person.

But the interesting thing, Dave, is when you think about

Well, I mean, what I would say is, first of all, that those two things run hand in hand.

Like the idea, I'm not cosigning it, but the idea that, hey, part of my success is because of the way I approach it, is my...

My attitude towards this and that's why I'm successful right that we see the the most Famous example this obvious is Michael Jordan that people think Michael Jordan was was an asshole That's like that's why it was successful as if without being an asshole.

You could have never been that successful We talk about coaches particularly modern-day coaches.

I think it's true.

You see it more often in college and

Usually going to be older guys.

So Tom Izzo is a hard-O, to use your term.

He's still around.

I think Calipari, even though he comes off as very slick and polished to the outside world, internally he's someone who is very demanding of his players.

In the NBA, not so much because –

It's kind of evolved that way when you have guys that are making multitudes more money than you are, not only because that's how much they're paid, but also that's how much more important they are.

You really cannot coach in that way.

The closest thing we probably have right now is J.J.

Redick.