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Amrith Ramkumar

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WSJ Tech News Briefing
The Showdown Between Coinbase and Big Banks

But the fight that's taking place now is interesting because it's over these rewards or annual payments Coinbase pays holders of a stablecoin offered by Circle through this very unique partnership.

WSJ Tech News Briefing
The Showdown Between Coinbase and Big Banks

So a stablecoin is a dollar-backed cryptocurrency essentially designed to hold its value.

WSJ Tech News Briefing
The Showdown Between Coinbase and Big Banks

Coinbase has this weird setup where they're allowed to pay holders on its platform of the Circle stablecoin rewards of, let's say, 3.5%.

WSJ Tech News Briefing
The Showdown Between Coinbase and Big Banks

at an annual rate.

WSJ Tech News Briefing
The Showdown Between Coinbase and Big Banks

And so banks are now looking at this and saying, wait a minute, that looks a lot like what I would pay a holder in a checking account.

WSJ Tech News Briefing
The Showdown Between Coinbase and Big Banks

I would pay them less than 0.1%.

WSJ Tech News Briefing
The Showdown Between Coinbase and Big Banks

But now you're offering these people 3.5% to just hold their cash there, essentially.

WSJ Tech News Briefing
The Showdown Between Coinbase and Big Banks

So that's created this fight that's really erupted in the last month or so in Washington.

WSJ Tech News Briefing
The Showdown Between Coinbase and Big Banks

So in mid-January, there was supposed to be a markup, a committee vote by the Senate Banking Committee on this market structure bill.

WSJ Tech News Briefing
The Showdown Between Coinbase and Big Banks

This bill has been in the works for years, but they could not agree on several key things.

WSJ Tech News Briefing
The Showdown Between Coinbase and Big Banks

Probably most importantly, this banking versus crypto fight over whether Coinbase and crypto exchanges can pay holders of stablecoins rewards.

WSJ Tech News Briefing
The Showdown Between Coinbase and Big Banks

And so the day before the markup, Brian Armstrong had a bunch of meetings with senators and he did not like the bill text.

WSJ Tech News Briefing
The Showdown Between Coinbase and Big Banks

So Armstrong puts out on social media on X, he says, Coinbase can't support this bill because of these reasons.

WSJ Tech News Briefing
The Showdown Between Coinbase and Big Banks

So the committee then cancels the vote several hours later.

WSJ Tech News Briefing
The Showdown Between Coinbase and Big Banks

And it's not really clear what the path is to get back on track.

WSJ Tech News Briefing
The Showdown Between Coinbase and Big Banks

Armstrong blowing up the vote like that was seen as really a shot across the bow at the banking industry and even some people in the White House.

WSJ Tech News Briefing
The Showdown Between Coinbase and Big Banks

So then the following week, Armstrong flies to Davos to try to make peace.

WSJ Tech News Briefing
The Showdown Between Coinbase and Big Banks

But at one point, he's talking to former UK Prime Minister Tony Blair.

WSJ Tech News Briefing
The Showdown Between Coinbase and Big Banks

And then Jamie Dimon of JPMorgan Chase comes up and interrupts.

WSJ Tech News Briefing
The Showdown Between Coinbase and Big Banks

and gets pretty heated and tells Armstrong he's full of shit.