Amy Alkon

Or if you want to try them out, you can still get 15% off your first order at drdrew.com slash paleovalley. So, Amy Alcon, you can follow her at amyalcon.x, amyalcon.net. Amy's got a number of... sort of distinguishing training and experiences in addition to her book, Going Menopausal, and also past president of Applied... Menopostal. Menopostal, I screwed it up. Menopostal, Amy, come on in.

Or if you want to try them out, you can still get 15% off your first order at drdrew.com slash paleovalley. So, Amy Alcon, you can follow her at amyalcon.x, amyalcon.net. Amy's got a number of... sort of distinguishing training and experiences in addition to her book, Going Menopausal, and also past president of Applied... Menopostal. Menopostal, I screwed it up. Menopostal, Amy, come on in.

I get the... And I don't blame women for going menopostal because... Because, first of all, no, because they've been mistreated. If you don't mind, before you and I get in our conversation, I want Susan to tell her story of perimenopause, menopause, which was, well, go ahead, tell the story.

I get the... And I don't blame women for going menopostal because... Because, first of all, no, because they've been mistreated. If you don't mind, before you and I get in our conversation, I want Susan to tell her story of perimenopause, menopause, which was, well, go ahead, tell the story.

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Amy, I'm sure you wrote about this and you read about this, but I want to flush out from the experience of the practitioner, the Women's Health Initiative, which is where a lot of this craziness came from. So we used to use an old-fashioned hormone replacement therapy called Premarin. It was kind of efficacious, but it wasn't ideal. And we would always use progesterones and things.

Amy, I'm sure you wrote about this and you read about this, but I want to flush out from the experience of the practitioner, the Women's Health Initiative, which is where a lot of this craziness came from. So we used to use an old-fashioned hormone replacement therapy called Premarin. It was kind of efficacious, but it wasn't ideal. And we would always use progesterones and things.

And all of a sudden, the Women's Health Initiative comes out. which was a deeply flawed study, but nobody would admit it. It's again, another pharma catastrophe. And the finding was, not only does it not protect against dementia, it causes breast cancer, it causes dementia, it causes heart disease. And this is what happened. I remember reading editorial, and I remember all of us,

And all of a sudden, the Women's Health Initiative comes out. which was a deeply flawed study, but nobody would admit it. It's again, another pharma catastrophe. And the finding was, not only does it not protect against dementia, it causes breast cancer, it causes dementia, it causes heart disease. And this is what happened. I remember reading editorial, and I remember all of us,

All clinicians went, that is not my experience. This is weird. My women on estrogens seem to be doing better. They have less dementia. They have less osteoporosis. Their affect is brighter. They're more energetic. They're more involved with things. And we were told, this is the part that you may not have read because lead articles in major journals said in these words, I'll never forget them.

All clinicians went, that is not my experience. This is weird. My women on estrogens seem to be doing better. They have less dementia. They have less osteoporosis. Their affect is brighter. They're more energetic. They're more involved with things. And we were told, this is the part that you may not have read because lead articles in major journals said in these words, I'll never forget them.

You are no better than a witch doctor if you do not follow the findings of this fine study on 60,000 or 600,000 or whatever it was, that you are not only worthy of the title of physician and we will strip you, we will attempt to strip you of any of your subspecialty qualifications, but you are a witch doctor. I remember those words. And so all of us sort of froze.

You are no better than a witch doctor if you do not follow the findings of this fine study on 60,000 or 600,000 or whatever it was, that you are not only worthy of the title of physician and we will strip you, we will attempt to strip you of any of your subspecialty qualifications, but you are a witch doctor. I remember those words. And so all of us sort of froze.

Yeah, we froze and women suffered. Women suffered.

Yeah, we froze and women suffered. Women suffered.

Yeah, I'm not surprised. We have a lot of groupthink. We have a lot of medical legal thinking. We follow what are sort of the prevailing winds of authorities mandates. And we don't think and if we don't read the literature, we're in big trouble. And the literature has been adulterated lately. That was the big shock to me during COVID. The literature became adulterated. I could see it.

Yeah, I'm not surprised. We have a lot of groupthink. We have a lot of medical legal thinking. We follow what are sort of the prevailing winds of authorities mandates. And we don't think and if we don't read the literature, we're in big trouble. And the literature has been adulterated lately. That was the big shock to me during COVID. The literature became adulterated. I could see it.

So we're all in agreement, estrogen, progesterone, breast cancer risk. I mean, if you have a BRCA gene, okay, you want to talk to your doctor about that. But otherwise, what my reading shows me is not only does it not significantly add to the breast cancer risk, if you add testosterone to the mix, you might actually reduce breast cancer risk in hormone replacement therapy with testosterone.

So we're all in agreement, estrogen, progesterone, breast cancer risk. I mean, if you have a BRCA gene, okay, you want to talk to your doctor about that. But otherwise, what my reading shows me is not only does it not significantly add to the breast cancer risk, if you add testosterone to the mix, you might actually reduce breast cancer risk in hormone replacement therapy with testosterone.