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I think he probably feels pretty crummy that she's now thrust into this spotlight, which she never wanted to be in.

And maybe he just really did want to give her credit, give credit where credit was due.

He said to give her credit, speaking of Melinda, she was always kind of skeptical about the Epstein thing.

And look, why wouldn't she be?

He admits in this town hall that he didn't even become friends with Epstein until 2011.

That's significant.

It was known.

I'm sorry, someone who makes it to the level that Bill Gates does and is one of the most, I mean, obviously he's brilliant from a scientific standpoint, but he's a brilliant businessman too.

You're telling me he didn't or didn't have anyone else check Epstein's background?

He actually claimed that because of the people who surrounded Epstein, he was lured into believing that he was a safe space.

And interestingly enough, it's people like Bill Gates himself who made those girls feel like they could have no voice because he was surrounded by the most powerful people in the world.

So every powerful person who chose to stand by him or with him contributed to this image of power that created so much of the suffering.

Yes, we had been hearing about affairs and absolutely had heard about ties to Epstein.

100% that she never liked him.

She didn't like him.

By the time, think about this, by the time their divorce was announced in 2021, Jeffrey Epstein had been dead for two years.

So his story was out there and it was building at that point.

So there were, it was more like whispers.

It wasn't anything direct.

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