Ana Swanson
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So he sees that as just a really powerful tool to force other countries to make concessions to him.
So he sees that as just a really powerful tool to force other countries to make concessions to him.
Yeah, well, I think both sides are eager to try to turn this into a symbolic and political victory for themselves, kind of regardless of what the terms of it are. And so the issue with judging whether or not they've made real gains here is that, particularly for Trump, the requirements that he was asking for to satisfy him were kind of vague and subjective.
Yeah, well, I think both sides are eager to try to turn this into a symbolic and political victory for themselves, kind of regardless of what the terms of it are. And so the issue with judging whether or not they've made real gains here is that, particularly for Trump, the requirements that he was asking for to satisfy him were kind of vague and subjective.
So it was never really clear what exactly Mexico needed to do to get these tariffs off. So- It's really up to the president to define what a win is, and I think he's going to find some way to proclaim a win for himself here.
So it was never really clear what exactly Mexico needed to do to get these tariffs off. So- It's really up to the president to define what a win is, and I think he's going to find some way to proclaim a win for himself here.
Well, yeah, I would think from the president and his supporters' perspective, they'll say yes. I mean, obviously the president is very attuned to the optics of his actions and how the public perceives them. But, you know, a lot of these concessions were already on the table, as my colleagues are saying, and were being repackaged.
Well, yeah, I would think from the president and his supporters' perspective, they'll say yes. I mean, obviously the president is very attuned to the optics of his actions and how the public perceives them. But, you know, a lot of these concessions were already on the table, as my colleagues are saying, and were being repackaged.
So, you know, I think his supporters will say this is the art of the deal. His critics will say this was a manufactured crisis. It also raises some questions about, you know, what will he do with other countries going forward?
So, you know, I think his supporters will say this is the art of the deal. His critics will say this was a manufactured crisis. It also raises some questions about, you know, what will he do with other countries going forward?
I think the president will see this as putting other countries on notice that he is willing to deploy tariffs, he's ready to use them, and the president will see that as a good thing. But there are certainly critics who will say that kind of uncertainty really erodes the rest of the world's trust in the United States to be this responsible stakeholder to Right.
I think the president will see this as putting other countries on notice that he is willing to deploy tariffs, he's ready to use them, and the president will see that as a good thing. But there are certainly critics who will say that kind of uncertainty really erodes the rest of the world's trust in the United States to be this responsible stakeholder to Right.
It just creates a lot of uncertainty for people around him.
It just creates a lot of uncertainty for people around him.
I think it's about America first. And it's about, you know, using the power of the American economy and deploying that as a weapon. You know, Trump knows that the American economy is extremely powerful and he likes to have that leverage to hold over other countries. And he also just really likes tariffs. You know, he said that in many ways that he likes them as a tool. They're very powerful.
I think it's about America first. And it's about, you know, using the power of the American economy and deploying that as a weapon. You know, Trump knows that the American economy is extremely powerful and he likes to have that leverage to hold over other countries. And he also just really likes tariffs. You know, he said that in many ways that he likes them as a tool. They're very powerful.
They're very immediate. I think we could also get into a situation where if people start to question whether or not the president is ready to deploy tariffs, he might have to deploy them, you know, just to show everyone that he's willing to use them. It's not really a source of leverage if you're not willing to go through with it.
They're very immediate. I think we could also get into a situation where if people start to question whether or not the president is ready to deploy tariffs, he might have to deploy them, you know, just to show everyone that he's willing to use them. It's not really a source of leverage if you're not willing to go through with it.
Yeah, and these are really large levels of tariffs. So this action is going to raise tariffs on some of America's closest allies like Canada and Mexico to levels that the country hasn't seen since the 1950s. Trump has tied this round of tariffs to goals for stopping immigration and drugs entering the United States.
Yeah, and these are really large levels of tariffs. So this action is going to raise tariffs on some of America's closest allies like Canada and Mexico to levels that the country hasn't seen since the 1950s. Trump has tied this round of tariffs to goals for stopping immigration and drugs entering the United States.