Anand Giridharadas

So I've been reading, rereading books that were really important to me in terms of that kind of journalism that can deeply inhabit people's lives.

So

Two of my classics, Random Family by Adrienne Nicole LeBlanc, one of the greatest works of 10 years of immersive reporting, deeply understanding community in the Bronx, and Behind the Beautiful Forevers by Catherine Boo, another one of the greatest in that field.

And then I'm going to tell you a third one that maybe the listening audience can help with.

This book is not published yet because no one will publish it.

There's a woman, incredible woman.

She shows up a lot in the Epstein files.

She's one of the only people who shows up in a way that makes her look good.

Her name is Conchita Sarnoff.

She's a lifelong campaigner against trafficking.

In the Epstein files, you see lots of people afraid of her.

scheming about how to keep her quiet.

Does someone know her?

Can someone... She even talked to Epstein, but she's been doing heroic work.

She has a book that she's working on that I am reliably told no one in New York will publish.

That is like an explosive version of like the really big story here.

A lot of things you and I have been talking about, not just this piece, not just that piece.

And I have been fascinated to learn that, you know, while people have been willing to publish individual stories of individual survivors and this and that, you know, when it gets to these really big banks, some of the stuff we've been talking about, some of these bigger international forces, there's a silence.

I want to read Conchita Sarnoff's book and I hope someone will publish it.

I'm so happy to be with you.