Anas Sarwar

So look, I don't pretend to be something I'm not.

I don't hide away from...

decisions either that i have made or my family have made about our kids or anything else i'm i've very much lived all my since i was 12 all my life very much in the public domain people know who i am they can make judgments based on who i am they've made those judgments since i became leader they've made those judgments obviously in the election in 2024 and they'll make those judgments in this election campaign as well but am i determined

to deliver a country that gives every young person a chance and an opportunity?

Absolutely, I am.

Because right now, so many of our kids are written off at birth, and that cannot be allowed to happen.

I wholeheartedly agree with you, Rory, because I think that's probably what makes me different from...

previous Scottish Labour leaders and gives me a different understanding about all these things.

So I grew up in a entrepreneurial family.

I spent lots of my childhood sweeping floors in my old man's warehouses, stacking the shelves and seeing and taking lots of questions about

buying margins and such like, so thinking about businesses and costs, and then spent time in our public services, obviously being a NHS dentist in Paisley, and then I've spent the last 16 years in politics.

So I've got a view of all three of those different sides.

And if I'm honest, I don't think more money is the answer.

I think one, how you generate wealth and use that wealth in a way to fund a functioning public sector, I think is really important.

How you inspire entrepreneurship and celebrate success is also really important.

I think too often as a country, success is seen as quite a dirty word or ambition is seen as a dirty word when in actual fact, if we don't have entrepreneurship, if we don't have successful businesses, we don't have anything else.

Because you only get social change if it's backed up with a strong growing economy.

So I will always be an economics first politician.

Secondly, let's be honest.

Are we spending every penny of public money well?