Anas Sarwar

We're good at startups in Scotland, we're not good at scale-ups in Scotland.

How do we support those businesses to scale up and to grow?

And the final bit, and actually you both are a good example of this,

and you both will know this from your own lived experience and you both travel a lot, is why don't we tap into the soft power of Scotland for economic benefit?

Ireland does it brilliantly.

It taps into brand Ireland to attract investment, tourism, and opportunity internationally.

with the rest of the world Scotland can do the exact same particularly in the North American market but much more besides so I want people to believe because it is Scotland's a great place to visit it's a great group of people it's got beautiful landscapes but I also want big neon signs that say Scotland is also a great place to do business

First of all, this was always going to be a hard election and as a hard election, but one I still believe we can win.

Secondly, if we hadn't won the UK general election, there is no chance we could have even be in contention for this election because I think the politics of the UK

would have been Tories re-elected despite all the scandal and chaos and I think that would have been a very different approach between the SNP and another Tory government across the UK.

But I remember saying it to UK shadow cabinet and then very early UK cabinet

that the election in Scotland will be much easier if it's a midterm of a popular Labour government rather than the midterm of an unpopular Labour government.

So that is undoubtedly a challenge.

I think there are two things in the analysis, though, that is missing in Westminster, but actually also up here as well, which is undoubtedly a UK Labour government is unpopular.

But I think right now that is overpriced in the opinion polls.

And at the same time, I think people underestimate how unpopular an SNP Scottish government is.

And I think right now that's underpriced in the opinion polls.

And my job over the course of the next five weeks or so is to persuade people that let's not pass a judgment on two years of a UK government.

Let's pass judgment on 20 years of an SNP Scottish government.

And this is what we would do differently using the power we have right now by pulling our country together rather than simply dividing it on those constitutional lines.