Anastasia Nicolazzi
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first heard Nov 2024
last heard Jun 2025
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While in custody, Sanford and Ponce confessed to their roles in the crime, detailing how they, along with Rimes, coordinated and carried out the attack on Ernie Ibarra. So, you know, Scott, you have to kind of come back first to Samantha here. You know, is it possible that she's telling the truth, you know, from the beginning that she had nothing to do with her husband's murder?
But all I can think about when I even ask myself that question is like, why would these guys do this but for her?
But yet to me, it just kind of defies common sense, right? Like why they would do this but for her. But I definitely agree that her not giving it to investigators right away could absolutely, whether she's in it or not, could be partially thinking about herself, not only repercussions with the police, but at the hands of these guys.
Samantha continued to deny having any role in the plot to kill her husband. But there was one thing she had not counted on, the digital evidence she had left behind on her cell phone.
According to Sanford, the initial plan did not actually include the home invasion.
Even after her husband was beaten, kidnapped, and shot to death, her cell phone records show that she made efforts to assist the perpetrators in concealing the crime, further proof that she was complicit in the murder.
All four suspects would eventually be charged with aggravated kidnapping and murder, with Walford facing additional charges due to her role in planning Ernie's death.
In two separate trials, Octavius Rimes was convicted and sentenced to 23 years for aggravated kidnapping in Titus County and an additional 75 years for murder in Camp County.
During his testimony, Jonathan Sanford recounted the cold-blooded execution of Ernie Ibarra, all the while careful to blame Jose Ponce with pulling the trigger.
Walford continued to maintain her innocence and ultimately decided to take a specific approach to avoiding blame.
As for her motive, we can only speculate, but testimony from several witnesses revealed that this may not have even been the first time Walford had tried to put her plan into action.
Multiple witnesses also came to Ernie's defense against her allegations of abuse.
A jury found Samantha Walford guilty of murder and sentenced her to 99 years in prison on top of a 50-year sentence for kidnapping.
His loss was made especially painful because it sadly also meant the loss of her grandchildren as well.
Murder causes such pain in so many ways. Ernie Ibarra didn't have an easy start, but had landed in a place where he was happy, and all he wanted was to care for his family, his children, and work hard at his two jobs to provide for them. Rather than end the marriage, if that's what she wanted to do, his wife orchestrated his assassination.
At the hands of his killers, she took Ernie from this earth and from all five of their kids. Their lives will be impacted forever. We hope that they are well and are being wrapped in love as they continue to heal. We will be off next week, but Anatomy of Murder will be back the following week with an all-new episode.
I'm Anasiga Nicolazzi, former New York City homicide prosecutor and host of Investigation Discovery's True Conviction.
Palo Alto, California is an idyllic Northern California city, perhaps best known as the crown jewel of Silicon Valley, the birthplace of tech giants like Facebook, Apple, and Google. It's also home to Stanford University, whose gorgeous campus in the foothills of Santa Clara County has attracted some of the world's best and brightest young people for over a century.
Today's story begins back on February 13th, 1973, when a recent Stanford graduate, 21-year-old Leslie Perloff, left the local law library where she worked.
Along with being an aspiring lawyer, Leslie was also a passionate student of the arts and literature and had the promise of a bright future. In fact, it was art that led Leslie on a mission that day in February of 1972.
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