Anastasia Nicolazzi

And while I'd say it doesn't seem like it, certainly at the end, whether it's helping cover for something, well, that I think is less clear or maybe more clear, I should say.

And while I'd say it doesn't seem like it, certainly at the end, whether it's helping cover for something, well, that I think is less clear or maybe more clear, I should say.

As other cases have shown us, the victim, or I should say the survivor of abuse, is not always the most reliable witness. She could choose to cooperate in an effort to free herself from that abusive partner, or she might also come to his defense. And obviously I'm saying she and he, but it could go any which way.

As other cases have shown us, the victim, or I should say the survivor of abuse, is not always the most reliable witness. She could choose to cooperate in an effort to free herself from that abusive partner, or she might also come to his defense. And obviously I'm saying she and he, but it could go any which way.

Here's part of that recorded interview.

Here's part of that recorded interview.

But that does not mean that Jamal's murder was purely a crime of passion. In fact, investigators had collected convincing evidence that suggested Samayoya's actions were thought out and deliberate.

But that does not mean that Jamal's murder was purely a crime of passion. In fact, investigators had collected convincing evidence that suggested Samayoya's actions were thought out and deliberate.

Paul and his fellow investigators had given prosecutors a treasure trove of evidence to hopefully successfully make their case. But as we have discussed so many times before, when it comes to trial, there is no such thing as a slam dunk.

Paul and his fellow investigators had given prosecutors a treasure trove of evidence to hopefully successfully make their case. But as we have discussed so many times before, when it comes to trial, there is no such thing as a slam dunk.

Plus, you had the location data from his cell phone that placed him at the scene. So even without his actual phone, prosecutors still had a pretty strong case.

Plus, you had the location data from his cell phone that placed him at the scene. So even without his actual phone, prosecutors still had a pretty strong case.

But being able to show the jury a photo of him posing with a possible murder weapon that had existed right there on his phone, or the text where he brags about being wanted, I absolutely can certainly understand Paul and the prosecutors' frustrations about losing that evidence.

But being able to show the jury a photo of him posing with a possible murder weapon that had existed right there on his phone, or the text where he brags about being wanted, I absolutely can certainly understand Paul and the prosecutors' frustrations about losing that evidence.

I have to stop for a second because Paul's discussion of his decision that ended up being a misstep, to me that is so important to discuss beyond the actual loss of evidence itself. You know, his straightforwardness, hey, this is a misstep. That's exactly the type of transparency that is key to what I hope. would instill more trust in our system because people make mistakes.

I have to stop for a second because Paul's discussion of his decision that ended up being a misstep, to me that is so important to discuss beyond the actual loss of evidence itself. You know, his straightforwardness, hey, this is a misstep. That's exactly the type of transparency that is key to what I hope. would instill more trust in our system because people make mistakes.

Most are not nefarious or ill-intended. And when they are, of course, it's a different story, completely no excuse. But when they aren't, we hope they don't hurt a case too much. And luckily here it didn't, but we're all human.

Most are not nefarious or ill-intended. And when they are, of course, it's a different story, completely no excuse. But when they aren't, we hope they don't hurt a case too much. And luckily here it didn't, but we're all human.

And Scott and I, you and I have had this conversation many times before, but we all make mistakes and Paul's honesty and insight about it, I found to be really important to stop here for a moment and highlight.

And Scott and I, you and I have had this conversation many times before, but we all make mistakes and Paul's honesty and insight about it, I found to be really important to stop here for a moment and highlight.