Anastasia Nicolazzi

While this was unfolding, Ryan attended a continuing education course, a requirement for his work as lead homicide investigator. During that course, Ryan had a lightbulb moment.

While this was unfolding, Ryan attended a continuing education course, a requirement for his work as lead homicide investigator. During that course, Ryan had a lightbulb moment.

It sprays a sterile solution and then vacuums it back up, collecting any DNA particles and fibers along the way. It can be more effective than the swabbing method, which is more regularly used for DNA extraction.

It sprays a sterile solution and then vacuums it back up, collecting any DNA particles and fibers along the way. It can be more effective than the swabbing method, which is more regularly used for DNA extraction.

But testing Kathy's evidence would be far from simple.

But testing Kathy's evidence would be far from simple.

It was decided that despite the high chance of failure, testing the evidence in Kathy Holly's homicide case was important to try. The MBAC system, which would be used, might be the one thing that could overcome the degradation of evidence collected and preserved in this case.

It was decided that despite the high chance of failure, testing the evidence in Kathy Holly's homicide case was important to try. The MBAC system, which would be used, might be the one thing that could overcome the degradation of evidence collected and preserved in this case.

And he's like, hold on. The police department was committed to testing the evidence, but they needed a cost-effective way to do it. You know, that is one thing, Scott, that obviously if we think about it, people will get it. But I don't think that everyone necessarily thinks about it right away that, you know, you actually need the dollars to be able to spend to do some of this work.

And he's like, hold on. The police department was committed to testing the evidence, but they needed a cost-effective way to do it. You know, that is one thing, Scott, that obviously if we think about it, people will get it. But I don't think that everyone necessarily thinks about it right away that, you know, you actually need the dollars to be able to spend to do some of this work.

And that is something that specifically smaller departments come up against all the time.

And that is something that specifically smaller departments come up against all the time.

Ryan then reached out to nonprofit organizations, one of which was in fact established by the Audiochuck Network.

Ryan then reached out to nonprofit organizations, one of which was in fact established by the Audiochuck Network.

The next hurdle Ryan faced was related to CODIS, which stands for the Combined DNA Index System. It's an FBI tool that enables forensic labs to exchange and compare DNA profiles electronically.

The next hurdle Ryan faced was related to CODIS, which stands for the Combined DNA Index System. It's an FBI tool that enables forensic labs to exchange and compare DNA profiles electronically.

It took extra work to make sure the testing would be CODIS eligible. Once that had been worked out, there was one last logistical hurdle, getting Kathy's evidence down to Deerfield Beach, Florida, where the specific lab was located.

It took extra work to make sure the testing would be CODIS eligible. Once that had been worked out, there was one last logistical hurdle, getting Kathy's evidence down to Deerfield Beach, Florida, where the specific lab was located.

They were all risks that Ryan and his team weren't willing to take. So for them, it left only one solution.

They were all risks that Ryan and his team weren't willing to take. So for them, it left only one solution.