Anderson .Paak

Right.

Some people, you get in there, they're on their phones, they're preoccupied.

Really?

Yeah.

They got other things, ventures and meetings and they can't focus on it or they...

They want, it's very transactional.

Maybe they want you to do something, but they're not concerned about how we can make the best song possible.

To their credit, sometimes the people that are releasing stuff, they have these projects done.

It's just a moment, something that they think is good enough.

A lot of the people are close to these people.

I know with Mac, with his estate and his mom and his brother, they're very close and very meticulous how they put out stuff.

And okay, now we're going to put it in blah, blah, blah.

But it's like.

I think Pop Smoke was working with 50 at the time, so it made sense.

It's like you want to see these projects through, but it's not always like that.

For me in particular, I heard someone say, you should die empty.

I've been trying to really get over

You know, holding on to stuff.

I want to get it out.

Right.