Andrea Dunlop

I wanted to just ask you about this notion of cowboy caps.

Do you think there's just, I mean, there's not very many caps in the country, right?

It's a small, and I'm sure it's going to be harder to build on that number given how they're being treated in the media.

And that's a problem I worry about.

But like, can you just respond to the cowboy cap defense, I suppose, because this is one I've seen come up a lot.

Yeah, and, you know, I think having talked to child abuse pediatricians and, you know, like Sally and others who, you know, have been engaged in this work for a long time, you know, they realized that this was work that they could do that a lot of other people just couldn't tolerate.

And certainly seeing children who've been beaten, sexually assaulted, you know, who've been tortured by Munchausen by proxy abuse, this is you're looking into something that happens too commonly in society that most people would much prefer to just live their lives and never have to think about.

Sally has talked to us about how one of the things that really kept her sane doing this work was keeping up with her general pediatrics practice because then she could just see, you know, children who were happy and healthy and thriving.

And, you know, that that was something that really brought her a lot of balance.

And, you know, it's so baffling to me to choose people that have taken on something so difficult and,

and villainize them.

Right.

Yeah.

All those oncologists that are staying in business by just anybody who shows up, they diagnose them with cancer, right?

That's why you get into like plastic surgery or something, you know, then you can really, then you can give someone something every time they walk through the door.

Those parents don't call the media, though, and say, hey, this wonderful child that you just pediatrician.

Yeah, they're happy, but they're not going to take that to Netflix.

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