Andrea Dunlop

One of the things that really to this day just turns my stomach about Kowalski v. Johns Hopkins is the fact that it has dragged two already traumatized children through years and years and ongoing trauma. litigation, media attention, reinforcement of them as, you know, their story being a tragedy and sort of being pawns in this lawsuit. And so I don't know, I guess I will just say this.

One of the things that really to this day just turns my stomach about Kowalski v. Johns Hopkins is the fact that it has dragged two already traumatized children through years and years and ongoing trauma. litigation, media attention, reinforcement of them as, you know, their story being a tragedy and sort of being pawns in this lawsuit. And so I don't know, I guess I will just say this.

I think, you know, if you're sort of like, and not to be glib about it, but if you're sort of putting like, okay, if we're weighing like with the information we have, what looks bad for the parents and sort of what looks like maybe there is something there, There's an awful lot in this column that doesn't look good for them.

I think, you know, if you're sort of like, and not to be glib about it, but if you're sort of putting like, okay, if we're weighing like with the information we have, what looks bad for the parents and sort of what looks like maybe there is something there, There's an awful lot in this column that doesn't look good for them.

I think, you know, if you're sort of like, and not to be glib about it, but if you're sort of putting like, okay, if we're weighing like with the information we have, what looks bad for the parents and sort of what looks like maybe there is something there, There's an awful lot in this column that doesn't look good for them.

I think it might be construed that Madison now joining this lawsuit is somehow in their favor, somehow speaks to, okay, this was a conspiracy. I don't think that's an assumption that anyone can make because- That's a good point. You know, and I think it's the same thing with like Maya Kowalski testifying on behalf of her family.

I think it might be construed that Madison now joining this lawsuit is somehow in their favor, somehow speaks to, okay, this was a conspiracy. I don't think that's an assumption that anyone can make because- That's a good point. You know, and I think it's the same thing with like Maya Kowalski testifying on behalf of her family.

I think it might be construed that Madison now joining this lawsuit is somehow in their favor, somehow speaks to, okay, this was a conspiracy. I don't think that's an assumption that anyone can make because- That's a good point. You know, and I think it's the same thing with like Maya Kowalski testifying on behalf of her family.

And, you know, some people who believed that Johns Hopkins was on the right side of things like were pretty critical of sort of the role that they saw her playing. And I did not agree with that at all. I was like, this is a young person. She turned 18 while that whole thing was happening.

And, you know, some people who believed that Johns Hopkins was on the right side of things like were pretty critical of sort of the role that they saw her playing. And I did not agree with that at all. I was like, this is a young person. She turned 18 while that whole thing was happening.

And, you know, some people who believed that Johns Hopkins was on the right side of things like were pretty critical of sort of the role that they saw her playing. And I did not agree with that at all. I was like, this is a young person. She turned 18 while that whole thing was happening.

I was like, this is someone who has been, no matter what you think happened here, so traumatized by, you know, her mother's death, by this whole situation, by being separated from her parents again. There are situations where both of us agree, where I think most people would agree. There are situations where parents cannot provide a safe home for their children.

I was like, this is someone who has been, no matter what you think happened here, so traumatized by, you know, her mother's death, by this whole situation, by being separated from her parents again. There are situations where both of us agree, where I think most people would agree. There are situations where parents cannot provide a safe home for their children.

I was like, this is someone who has been, no matter what you think happened here, so traumatized by, you know, her mother's death, by this whole situation, by being separated from her parents again. There are situations where both of us agree, where I think most people would agree. There are situations where parents cannot provide a safe home for their children.

That's not a safe place for that child. The removal separation needs to happen. It's still going to be traumatizing.

That's not a safe place for that child. The removal separation needs to happen. It's still going to be traumatizing.

That's not a safe place for that child. The removal separation needs to happen. It's still going to be traumatizing.

Yeah, absolutely.

Yeah, absolutely.

Yeah, absolutely.