Andrea Dunlop

because of sort of when you talk about like ACE scores, you know, adverse childhood experiences, that like a child that's in the foster care system has already had some bad things happen to them to get there, but they're going to have a, often have times have a better outcome being in the foster care system than they would have if they had stayed in that home.

So I think it is really like, it's a recognition. Like, I think this whole conversation is a recognition of their being better and worse options, but no perfect options once a child cannot be raised by their parents.

So I think it is really like, it's a recognition. Like, I think this whole conversation is a recognition of their being better and worse options, but no perfect options once a child cannot be raised by their parents.

So I think it is really like, it's a recognition. Like, I think this whole conversation is a recognition of their being better and worse options, but no perfect options once a child cannot be raised by their parents.

Right. Right. I just think about this all the time, having gotten to know some of these people, child abuse pediatricians in particular, because I hope that we will move beyond that.

Right. Right. I just think about this all the time, having gotten to know some of these people, child abuse pediatricians in particular, because I hope that we will move beyond that.

Right. Right. I just think about this all the time, having gotten to know some of these people, child abuse pediatricians in particular, because I hope that we will move beyond that.

this period of demonizing them in short order because to me i i think their work is heroic because these are people who have chosen to look at something a part of humanity that very much exists and unfortunately is much more common than most people would like to think And they have chose to look it in the face and be part of making those impossible, hard, but necessary decisions.

this period of demonizing them in short order because to me i i think their work is heroic because these are people who have chosen to look at something a part of humanity that very much exists and unfortunately is much more common than most people would like to think And they have chose to look it in the face and be part of making those impossible, hard, but necessary decisions.

this period of demonizing them in short order because to me i i think their work is heroic because these are people who have chosen to look at something a part of humanity that very much exists and unfortunately is much more common than most people would like to think And they have chose to look it in the face and be part of making those impossible, hard, but necessary decisions.

And right now they're being villainized for it. And I'm like, that is a job that most of us would not last a day in.

And right now they're being villainized for it. And I'm like, that is a job that most of us would not last a day in.

And right now they're being villainized for it. And I'm like, that is a job that most of us would not last a day in.

And that's how we should be training it. For, you know, this upcoming season I'm working on, I talked to a number of people who worked in pediatric and infant hospice care. And those are some of the saddest conversations I ever had in my whole career. And I just thought, God, it is so special that there are people who are able to do this work. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And it is so backwards.

And that's how we should be training it. For, you know, this upcoming season I'm working on, I talked to a number of people who worked in pediatric and infant hospice care. And those are some of the saddest conversations I ever had in my whole career. And I just thought, God, it is so special that there are people who are able to do this work. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And it is so backwards.

And that's how we should be training it. For, you know, this upcoming season I'm working on, I talked to a number of people who worked in pediatric and infant hospice care. And those are some of the saddest conversations I ever had in my whole career. And I just thought, God, it is so special that there are people who are able to do this work. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And it is so backwards.

And I think eventually we are going to look back at this period the way that we look back at the satanic panic. And we're going to be like, what were people thinking? How did we ever – how were we ever in such a backwards scenario that we were looking at people who are so – There's just nothing for them to be motivated by. It's not a well-paid position. You don't make money. They do a lot of work.

And I think eventually we are going to look back at this period the way that we look back at the satanic panic. And we're going to be like, what were people thinking? How did we ever – how were we ever in such a backwards scenario that we were looking at people who are so – There's just nothing for them to be motivated by. It's not a well-paid position. You don't make money. They do a lot of work.

And I think eventually we are going to look back at this period the way that we look back at the satanic panic. And we're going to be like, what were people thinking? How did we ever – how were we ever in such a backwards scenario that we were looking at people who are so – There's just nothing for them to be motivated by. It's not a well-paid position. You don't make money. They do a lot of work.

I mean, I've never looked at one of these positions where I'm like, oh, you're just actually doing a lot of work that you're not being paid for at all. Much more likely than that this is well-paid. And they're putting themselves just on the firing line. And I mean, I think it is like, I hope we get to a place where more people understand that they should just be in deep, deep admiration.