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Um, so they're then saying that this, I know it's like, it's, it's like next to impossible to divine what they're even saying happened. Um, but it doesn't, I guess it doesn't seem very likely even, even on its face, but that, that a residential treatment center would somehow have a dog in this fight. Um, But just knowing centers like this, I mean, does this seem equally as wild to you?

Right. I mean, the way I read it was like, oh, if you don't agree that she was abused, then we're just going to say, OK, I guess there's nothing wrong with this child. So she doesn't need to be in residential treatment. So we're going to show her the door. I mean, I just don't think that's how that works. No. I guess another scandalous and precedent setting, if true, right?

Right. I mean, the way I read it was like, oh, if you don't agree that she was abused, then we're just going to say, OK, I guess there's nothing wrong with this child. So she doesn't need to be in residential treatment. So we're going to show her the door. I mean, I just don't think that's how that works. No. I guess another scandalous and precedent setting, if true, right?

Right. I mean, the way I read it was like, oh, if you don't agree that she was abused, then we're just going to say, OK, I guess there's nothing wrong with this child. So she doesn't need to be in residential treatment. So we're going to show her the door. I mean, I just don't think that's how that works. No. I guess another scandalous and precedent setting, if true, right?

I mean, I don't like either of these people have discovered just truly the most wild conspiracy that has literally ever taken place in the United States of America. Or the world. Or the world. Right. Yes, I was just saying, like, you know, I don't, I haven't studied international law to know enough, but like, I would assume that this was like, this is a conspiracy.

I mean, I don't like either of these people have discovered just truly the most wild conspiracy that has literally ever taken place in the United States of America. Or the world. Or the world. Right. Yes, I was just saying, like, you know, I don't, I haven't studied international law to know enough, but like, I would assume that this was like, this is a conspiracy.

I mean, I don't like either of these people have discovered just truly the most wild conspiracy that has literally ever taken place in the United States of America. Or the world. Or the world. Right. Yes, I was just saying, like, you know, I don't, I haven't studied international law to know enough, but like, I would assume that this was like, this is a conspiracy.

I mean, this is like a, this is a Dan Brown novel of a different stripe if any of this actually happened. Yeah. Yeah. So, uh, yeah, I think, um, well, thank you so much, Mary. Is there anything else you just want to say about this lawsuit, about the situation, about our understanding of, of these things? Um, this was so helpful to talk through all of this with you. I really appreciate it.

I mean, this is like a, this is a Dan Brown novel of a different stripe if any of this actually happened. Yeah. Yeah. So, uh, yeah, I think, um, well, thank you so much, Mary. Is there anything else you just want to say about this lawsuit, about the situation, about our understanding of, of these things? Um, this was so helpful to talk through all of this with you. I really appreciate it.

I mean, this is like a, this is a Dan Brown novel of a different stripe if any of this actually happened. Yeah. Yeah. So, uh, yeah, I think, um, well, thank you so much, Mary. Is there anything else you just want to say about this lawsuit, about the situation, about our understanding of, of these things? Um, this was so helpful to talk through all of this with you. I really appreciate it.

Oh, well, I really appreciate that, Mary. And I just yes, tell I know we have a number we have many child abuse pediatricians that listen to the show. And I'm sorry, you are not more widely appreciated, but you are always appreciated here. And you know, I try not to be I try not to be hyperbolic too much on the show. But I don't if that's not heroic work, then I don't know what is.

Oh, well, I really appreciate that, Mary. And I just yes, tell I know we have a number we have many child abuse pediatricians that listen to the show. And I'm sorry, you are not more widely appreciated, but you are always appreciated here. And you know, I try not to be I try not to be hyperbolic too much on the show. But I don't if that's not heroic work, then I don't know what is.

Oh, well, I really appreciate that, Mary. And I just yes, tell I know we have a number we have many child abuse pediatricians that listen to the show. And I'm sorry, you are not more widely appreciated, but you are always appreciated here. And you know, I try not to be I try not to be hyperbolic too much on the show. But I don't if that's not heroic work, then I don't know what is.

Well, thank you. Thanks, Mary. Thanks so much. This episode of Nobody Should Believe Me Case Files was hosted and executive produced by me, Andrea Dunlop. Mariah Gossett is our supervising producer. Greta Stromquist is our producer and editor. Aaron Ajayi is our fact checker. And thanks also to Nola Karmouche for administrative support.

Well, thank you. Thanks, Mary. Thanks so much. This episode of Nobody Should Believe Me Case Files was hosted and executive produced by me, Andrea Dunlop. Mariah Gossett is our supervising producer. Greta Stromquist is our producer and editor. Aaron Ajayi is our fact checker. And thanks also to Nola Karmouche for administrative support.

Well, thank you. Thanks, Mary. Thanks so much. This episode of Nobody Should Believe Me Case Files was hosted and executive produced by me, Andrea Dunlop. Mariah Gossett is our supervising producer. Greta Stromquist is our producer and editor. Aaron Ajayi is our fact checker. And thanks also to Nola Karmouche for administrative support.

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