Andrea Dunlop

And I will say I've talked to so many of those people on the show.

social workers, child abuse pediatricians, crimes against children, detectives, people who've really taken a lot of hits for doing the right thing in a difficult situation to protect a child.

I think that is something that I feel really lucky to come into contact with.

So

Yeah, there's a lot about the work that's really challenging, but I will say it's never boring.

And I have a pretty deep fear of being bored in a job.

I feel lucky that I found something, especially, you know, getting into my 40s that's really given me a lot of purpose.

So.

Yeah, awareness of it is pretty low.

And I think people's regular touch points, yes, Eminem's song, Cleaning Out My Closet.

He mentions Munchausen by proxy.

Abuse, I should say, he hasn't talked about it really publicly in any other wider context of like his experience of that.

But he does, of course, allude to it.

And then the Gypsy Rose Blanchard case is the one that really broke through that a lot of people know about.

So that is the case for those who don't know of Munchausen.

young woman who was in an abuse situation and ended up meeting a boyfriend online, conspired to murder her mother, Dee Dee Blanchard, went to prison for seven years, got out a couple of years ago.

And that was just like a huge story.

There was a couple of big media properties about it.

There was an HBO documentary called Mommy Dead and Dearest.

There was a Hulu series called The Act.