Andrea Dunlop

So we did hear from a pain expert from Stanford in the Kowalski case who talked about ketamine. And I believe he did use on some of his CRPS patients sort of like a low dose ketamine treatment for, again, refractory pain, meaning it wasn't responding to anything else. And ketamine is a drug that's been around for a It's used as an anesthetic.

So we did hear from a pain expert from Stanford in the Kowalski case who talked about ketamine. And I believe he did use on some of his CRPS patients sort of like a low dose ketamine treatment for, again, refractory pain, meaning it wasn't responding to anything else. And ketamine is a drug that's been around for a It's used as an anesthetic.

So we did hear from a pain expert from Stanford in the Kowalski case who talked about ketamine. And I believe he did use on some of his CRPS patients sort of like a low dose ketamine treatment for, again, refractory pain, meaning it wasn't responding to anything else. And ketamine is a drug that's been around for a It's used as an anesthetic.

So, yeah, certainly like and then we sort of talked about this thing of using ketamine off label. But then, of course, there are many there are many drugs that are used by physicians regularly that are used in that way because it just the FDA approval process is lengthy. But that's an intellectual explanation of my thoughts on that.

So, yeah, certainly like and then we sort of talked about this thing of using ketamine off label. But then, of course, there are many there are many drugs that are used by physicians regularly that are used in that way because it just the FDA approval process is lengthy. But that's an intellectual explanation of my thoughts on that.

So, yeah, certainly like and then we sort of talked about this thing of using ketamine off label. But then, of course, there are many there are many drugs that are used by physicians regularly that are used in that way because it just the FDA approval process is lengthy. But that's an intellectual explanation of my thoughts on that.

My my emotional reaction to hearing this part of the story is, oh, no. It really is now sounding very, very similar trajectory to the Kowalski case.

My my emotional reaction to hearing this part of the story is, oh, no. It really is now sounding very, very similar trajectory to the Kowalski case.

My my emotional reaction to hearing this part of the story is, oh, no. It really is now sounding very, very similar trajectory to the Kowalski case.

So not cash, strip mall, ketamine clinics like Dr. Hanna and Dr. Kirkpatrick in the Kowalski case with substandard monitoring techniques. Right.

So not cash, strip mall, ketamine clinics like Dr. Hanna and Dr. Kirkpatrick in the Kowalski case with substandard monitoring techniques. Right.

So not cash, strip mall, ketamine clinics like Dr. Hanna and Dr. Kirkpatrick in the Kowalski case with substandard monitoring techniques. Right.

So this is according to the treating physicians, is that kind of thing?

So this is according to the treating physicians, is that kind of thing?

So this is according to the treating physicians, is that kind of thing?

But yeah, seizures are a big part of these cases. And, you know, unfortunately, the reason this makes a diagnosis that's easy to use by a perpetrator is that it can be very difficult to capture seizure activity properly. when it's happening, right? Because they have to be in, you know, they have to either be under observation in the hospital, but it is capturable.

But yeah, seizures are a big part of these cases. And, you know, unfortunately, the reason this makes a diagnosis that's easy to use by a perpetrator is that it can be very difficult to capture seizure activity properly. when it's happening, right? Because they have to be in, you know, they have to either be under observation in the hospital, but it is capturable.

But yeah, seizures are a big part of these cases. And, you know, unfortunately, the reason this makes a diagnosis that's easy to use by a perpetrator is that it can be very difficult to capture seizure activity properly. when it's happening, right? Because they have to be in, you know, they have to either be under observation in the hospital, but it is capturable.

Like if you have those, you know, that monitoring going and the child has something that their parent is calling a seizure and they don't see that brainwave activity that's associated with seizures, well, that is not then a seizure. So what is the

Like if you have those, you know, that monitoring going and the child has something that their parent is calling a seizure and they don't see that brainwave activity that's associated with seizures, well, that is not then a seizure. So what is the