Andrea Dunlop

And then when you add the layer of that parent might not be interested in what's best for their child and they might have their own ulterior motives, that then adds just this other layer of complexity that is so dark.

So the other two claims that came up across these lawsuits were using unapproved medical devices, notably this infused device, without consent. So presumably using something that they did not let patients know was not an approved medical device, which seems important.

So the other two claims that came up across these lawsuits were using unapproved medical devices, notably this infused device, without consent. So presumably using something that they did not let patients know was not an approved medical device, which seems important.

So the other two claims that came up across these lawsuits were using unapproved medical devices, notably this infused device, without consent. So presumably using something that they did not let patients know was not an approved medical device, which seems important.

Again, like using things off-label is something that happens all the time. I've been prescribed something off-label that was very effective. And it's sort of like one of those things where you want to be able to give people the best available care as long as there's good information about it, even if it's not yet FDA approved, because that can be a lengthy bureaucratic process.

Again, like using things off-label is something that happens all the time. I've been prescribed something off-label that was very effective. And it's sort of like one of those things where you want to be able to give people the best available care as long as there's good information about it, even if it's not yet FDA approved, because that can be a lengthy bureaucratic process.

Again, like using things off-label is something that happens all the time. I've been prescribed something off-label that was very effective. And it's sort of like one of those things where you want to be able to give people the best available care as long as there's good information about it, even if it's not yet FDA approved, because that can be a lengthy bureaucratic process.

but certainly something that patients should be informed of. And then the last one, which I think is kind of the cherry on the sundae of this whole thing, is engaging in deceptive marketing and misinformation, including through the website. And so I think this whole thing is sort of Looks like a worst case scenario of what can happen in our for-profit medical system.

but certainly something that patients should be informed of. And then the last one, which I think is kind of the cherry on the sundae of this whole thing, is engaging in deceptive marketing and misinformation, including through the website. And so I think this whole thing is sort of Looks like a worst case scenario of what can happen in our for-profit medical system.

but certainly something that patients should be informed of. And then the last one, which I think is kind of the cherry on the sundae of this whole thing, is engaging in deceptive marketing and misinformation, including through the website. And so I think this whole thing is sort of Looks like a worst case scenario of what can happen in our for-profit medical system.

You know, these procedures were very expensive. The most frequently quoted number was $55,000. And again, because they're experimental, they're not going to be covered by insurance in a lot of cases. So there was confusion. you know, these details of them telling patients that they could try to submit it to their insurance to get covered, but often that they did not get it covered.

You know, these procedures were very expensive. The most frequently quoted number was $55,000. And again, because they're experimental, they're not going to be covered by insurance in a lot of cases. So there was confusion. you know, these details of them telling patients that they could try to submit it to their insurance to get covered, but often that they did not get it covered.

You know, these procedures were very expensive. The most frequently quoted number was $55,000. And again, because they're experimental, they're not going to be covered by insurance in a lot of cases. So there was confusion. you know, these details of them telling patients that they could try to submit it to their insurance to get covered, but often that they did not get it covered.

So these patients are paying out of pocket for these very, very expensive procedures. And again, when you have that much of a profit motive, it really calls into question why they are doing these things outside of the realm of medical consensus. Are they operating under their Hippocratic Oath to do no harm?

So these patients are paying out of pocket for these very, very expensive procedures. And again, when you have that much of a profit motive, it really calls into question why they are doing these things outside of the realm of medical consensus. Are they operating under their Hippocratic Oath to do no harm?

So these patients are paying out of pocket for these very, very expensive procedures. And again, when you have that much of a profit motive, it really calls into question why they are doing these things outside of the realm of medical consensus. Are they operating under their Hippocratic Oath to do no harm?

Yes. So it sounds like, yeah, can you tell us a little bit more about that, Bex, of like, this is not a procedure that they do in very specific circumstances. It sounds like that is, and I mean, even just the number of lawsuits that are associated with this speaks to that, right?

Yes. So it sounds like, yeah, can you tell us a little bit more about that, Bex, of like, this is not a procedure that they do in very specific circumstances. It sounds like that is, and I mean, even just the number of lawsuits that are associated with this speaks to that, right?

Yes. So it sounds like, yeah, can you tell us a little bit more about that, Bex, of like, this is not a procedure that they do in very specific circumstances. It sounds like that is, and I mean, even just the number of lawsuits that are associated with this speaks to that, right?

It's giving the picture of everyone who walks through a door gets this diagnosis and gets recommended to have this procedure, which is very concerning.