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Andrea Dunlop

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Nobody Should Believe Me
S07 E03: Two Steps

In the last message sent around 1230, John says that he found medicine, notes that Nolan is resting comfortably, and shows a photo of him laying down with his eyes closed.

Nobody Should Believe Me
S07 E03: Two Steps

Here's what John told us about those messages.

Nobody Should Believe Me
S07 E03: Two Steps

But according to John's police interview, Danica didn't see the messages until hours after Nolan's seizure.

Nobody Should Believe Me
S07 E03: Two Steps

I asked John about his decision not to seek medical care when Nolan had his first seizure.

Nobody Should Believe Me
S07 E03: Two Steps

And what about his conditions in those photographs?

Nobody Should Believe Me
S07 E03: Two Steps

I mean, I can't speak obviously to stuff that I haven't seen, but I mean, I think just for me, I have a six-year-old and a three-year-old, right?

Nobody Should Believe Me
S07 E03: Two Steps

And so this is all very recent that I've had kids this age.

Nobody Should Believe Me
S07 E03: Two Steps

And I just think if my 15-month-old, or if I was taking care of any 15-month-old that was...

Nobody Should Believe Me
S07 E03: Two Steps

you know, essentially not conscious.

Nobody Should Believe Me
S07 E03: Two Steps

I mean, he doesn't, he doesn't appear to be conscious in those photos.

Nobody Should Believe Me
S07 E03: Two Steps

I would seek medical attention, you know, especially if they had a seizure like activity and they hadn't had, I mean, had you seen Nolan have a seizure before?

Nobody Should Believe Me
S07 E03: Two Steps

Cause you're a pretty regular caretaker at this point of the kids, right?

Nobody Should Believe Me
S07 E03: Two Steps

I mean, you, you can understand, you can understand my question about that, right?

Nobody Should Believe Me
S07 E03: Two Steps

I have seen these photos, and obviously I'm not a medical professional, but it's hard to square what I see looking at them with what John describes here.

Nobody Should Believe Me
S07 E03: Two Steps

Fortunately, two very experienced medical professionals that were involved in Nolan's case, the child abuse pediatrician Dr. Sally Smith and the medical examiner Dr. Russell Vega, have also seen these photos.

Nobody Should Believe Me
S07 E03: Two Steps

Here's what Dr. Smith had to say.

Nobody Should Believe Me
S07 E03: Two Steps

Larry and Danica, the other two adults who were around Nolan during this time, describe him as either asleep or fussy and lethargic after Friday morning.