Andrea Loubier

So if you're talking to like a VC in, let's say Silicon Valley, like they're looking for people that kind of fit

that mold, I think a little bit more of, you know, they went to Stanford, they have started three different startups and exited one, you know, so that's one factor.

It's like the founders and the location.

The other thing too, of course, is the size of the market and the potential of growth for that market.

So,

For Mailbird, for example, you look at the market size that we're currently addressing, and we're currently only for Windows OS right now.

So that's even just a small chunk.

And if you look at the number of Windows users that are in the world today, it still holds, I'll just tell you, it still holds 83% of the operating system market share.

I'm like, you know, I'm indifferent.

I'm like, I like Mac too, and I like Windows.

That's right, exactly.

So, yeah, there's just a lot of those different factors.

Actually, AngelList is, I don't know if people are aware of them, but it's a platform that connects founders and investors, basically.

But they have a really cool kind of valuation tool, and you can kind of segment that.

your startup based on, yeah, again, those same factors and variables like location, where they went to school, industry and stuff like that.

And that gives you a nice starting ballpark.

We have a total of 12 people.

I actually just hired someone.

Congratulations.

Yes, full-time.