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Andrej Karpathy

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

So I would be a lot more interested in what's happening with call center employees today, for example, because I would expect a lot of the road stuff to be automatable today.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

And I don't have a first level access to it, but maybe I would be looking for trends of what's happening with the call center employees.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

Maybe some of the things I would also expect is maybe they are swapping in AI, but then I would still wait for a year or two because I would potentially expect them to pull back and actually rehire some of the people.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

So I think there's an interesting point here because I do believe coding is like the perfect first thing for these LLMs and agents.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

And that's because coding has always fundamentally worked around text.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

It's computer terminals and text, and everything is based around text.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

And LLMs, the way they're trained on the internet, love text.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

And so they're perfect text processors, and there's all this data out there, and it's just a perfect fit.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

And also we have a lot of infrastructure pre-built for handling code and text.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

So, for example, we have Visual Studio Code or, you know, your favorite IDE showing you code.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

And an agent can plug into that.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

So for example, if an agent has a diff where it made some change, we suddenly have all this code already that shows all the differences to a code base using a diff.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

So it's almost like we've pre-built a lot of the infrastructure for code.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

Now contrast that with some of the things that don't enjoy that at all.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

So as an example, like there's people trying to build automation, not for coding, but for example, for slides.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

Like I saw a company doing slides.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

That's much, much harder.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

And the reason it's much, much harder is because slides are not text.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

Slides are little graphics, and they're arranged spatially, and there's visual components to it.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

And slides don't have this pre-built infrastructure.