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Andrej Karpathy

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

And I think a lot of the reinforcement learning is actually more like motor tasks.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

It's not intelligence tasks.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

So I actually kind of think humans don't actually really use RL, roughly speaking is what I would say.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

A lot of the reinforcement learning in my perspective would be things that are a lot more like motor-like, like simple kind of like tasks, throwing a hoop, something like that.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

But I don't think that humans use reinforcement learning for a lot of intelligence tasks like problem solving and so on.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

Interesting.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

That doesn't mean we shouldn't do that for research, but I just feel like that's what animals do or don't.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

I think so.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

I would agree with you that there's some miraculous compression going on, because obviously the weights of the neural net are not stored in ATCGs.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

There's some kind of a dramatic compression, and there's some kind of learning algorithms encoded that take over and do some of the learning online.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

So I definitely agree with you on that.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

Basically, I would say I'm a lot more kind of like practically minded.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

I don't come at it from the perspective of like, let's build animals.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

I come from the perspective of like, let's build useful things.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

So I have a hard hat on.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

And I'm just observing that, look, we're not going to do evolution, because I don't know how to do that.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

But it does turn out we can build these ghost spirit-like entities by imitating internet documents.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

This works.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

And it's actually kind of like, it's a way to bring you up to something that has a lot of sort of built-in knowledge and intelligence in some way, similar to maybe what evolution has done.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

So that's why I kind of call pre-training this kind of like crappy evolution.