Andrew Chatterton

Yeah, well, a lot of them were on, like, farmland, so, like, a tractor would drive over them in the 50s or a cow would fall through it, because it's basically...

you have how do you dig an underground base yeah so you get they'd get the royal secret as well how do you dig a base in the sea well they're in the middle of nowhere but they'd say things like oh we're there's a um we're digging an anti-aircraft gun or there's an unexploded bomb up there that's what we're doing up there but they could dig these things in like a day there'd be like 24 royal engineers that go up there and they're the most remarkable thing so you have

like a hatch, which is flush to the floor, which is disguised.

And then there'd be various ways of opening the hatch.

So sometimes it'd be like on a counterweight, so you'd stamp and it'd flip up and swivel round and then you'd go down.

It is, it is.

Or you'd pull what looks like a tree root and that would pop it up.

Or it'd ring a bell underneath and they'd pop it up.

Or you'd have like a marble...

and you'd roll it down what looked like a mouse hole, and it'd roll down underground, and then the guys would know that you're waiting to be... Okay, can we make this a six-hour episode?

Yeah.

I mean, not even their wives.

So we'll get into it in a bit, but yeah, the wives had no idea.

So they'd literally, so if the, I'll carry on talking about the bunkers, but if the German, when the Germans came, these guys would just disappear and their families would have no idea where they'd gone or what they're up to.

Which is like, from a family perspective, there's no more vulnerable time to leave than when... Oh, my God.

So they would only go... Yeah, what the hell were their families thinking?

He's on... Well, they've just gone.

We have no idea.

Because they couldn't tell them because it'd be obvious that the man of the house has gone and then the Germans would probably torture the family to try and get the information out.

But if they don't know anything, then they don't know anything.