Andrew Gallimore

Objects seem to kind of change their identity.

Everything becomes more fluid and dynamic.

And if you put someone into an MRI machine, for example, you can actually see that.

In the normal waking state, you can see the neural activity.

It's dynamic, but it's kind of organized and well orchestrated.

You give someone psilocybin, let's say, or LSD, and you start to see the activity becoming sort of more random and fluid.

So you get this state of slightly increased disorder, as if the kind of the tuning dial between order and disorder in the brain has been slightly nudged towards disorder.

But then with DMT, something remarkable happens.

In the early stages of the experience, you get this kind of quite chaotic state suggesting that the brain is entering this more disordered state.

But then it kind of collapses into this brand new order.

So you go from the order of the normal waking world.

to this disordered state, and then you collapse into this completely different type of order.

So the brain is effectively constructing an entirely different model of reality.

It's no longer the normal waking world model, which acts as kind of an interface

with the environment, but it's constructing a completely different world model.

Because you're, well, okay.

So if you think about, you know, how does the brain interact with the, how do we interact with the environment using our senses, right?

So light information comes through the eyes, the retina, and it stimulates the very back of the brain.

You have an area, oh,

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