Andrew Jarecki

This is a total disaster.

Nobody can put their dog in this.

So it's not a whole lot better in a lot of these places.

Um, I think that interview was shorter than most.

Maybe it was two, two hours.

Um, for, we do some sevens and some nines, you know, Jesus.

Yeah.

Yeah.

They're kicking.

Usually the wife is like standing in the corner and being like looking at the watch, but Steve Marshall gave you two hours.

Yeah.

I mean, you know, the great thing about somebody like this is that they say the quiet part out loud.

There's no shame in it.

And I don't really know how he manages it, you know, as a self-proclaimed Christian.

I don't know how he goes and kisses his kids and says, like, daddy's upholding the law and so on.

Yeah.

because he knows what the statistics are right let's say he just doesn't he forces himself or he prevents himself from from having access to the prisons you know you can always put some kind of operatic in between you and the prisons and then you say i don't know i saw the reports and it doesn't look like it's all that bad um so i don't know how he describes it to himself but

And I think, you know, politicians are kind of will-o'-the-wisp and, you know, he used to be a Democrat and then now he's a Republican.

And then he was recently so Republican that he was one of the guys who – one of the local state officials who came to New York and put on the red tie and the Trump outfit and went down to –

Lower Manhattan and start talking about how Trump was being railroaded by the justice system and so on.