Andrew Jarecki
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So teach me how to record my phone calls.
You know, so this older woman suddenly became a really important partner in making the film.
And this gets back to your question about Stephen Davis.
So her son, who was a drug addict...
Didn't kill anybody but was in a car when a drug deal went bad.
He went to try to buy drugs and his friend went in the house and they had a fight and somebody got shot.
And then he got arrested and was charged with murder because that's how the felony murder statute works.
And so here you have a drug addict who goes to prison in Alabama and is in the highest security prison there and is targeted by a particular guard who is especially violent and is just beaten to death in front of 70 witnesses.
And then, of course, as we go through the film, we start tracking that in our investigation and we start looking into the cover-up and why they lied about how he had died and how they scrambled the witnesses and how the Department of Corrections is organized so that they prevent people from finding out what really happened to their kids or their loved ones and they avoid liability and so on.
And there was one person that we ended up hearing from, this guy James Sales, who originally tells just the police side of the story, just says, well, you know, yeah, it's exactly the way that the guard said.
But then he kind of hints on the phone, listen, when I get out of here, I'll tell the real story.
Well, the person that he said it to was the lawyer for Sandy Ray.
So he was supposed to be on a private attorney call.
But we do think that...
The Department of Corrections doesn't abide by that.
I think they do listen to attorney calls.
Sales didn't say exactly on the phone what he was going to say, but I think they knew that he was a problem because he was a good person.
I mean, Sales, the one who entered an unoccupied building and was locked up for 15 years for that, was obviously a decent person.
That's why he says, you know, when I get out, I'll speak to that.