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Andrew Milgram

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Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

Because after the financial crisis, the federal government adopted, correctly, I think, the perspective that they wear the ultimate risk in the banking system.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

And so he who wears the risk makes the rules.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

They said, look, we're wearing this risk.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

We don't want anything above...

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

X leverage in the system.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

So we want that out.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

That allowed the private credit market, which has always been there, but really to flourish in the aftermath of the financial crisis.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

And there's been an immense amount of capital that has gone into the space

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

Where there is over allocation, there will be mistakes.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

And I think we see those mistakes rearing their head today.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

According to Fitch, about 82% of the private credit market exists in the single B minus and lower credit quality space.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

Look, we have 40 years of data that tells us how various credit quality equivalents perform.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

Triple Cs, for instance, default at about a three year, 30% cumulative default rate.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

So the largest portion of private credit, according to Fitch, is in triple C equivalent.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

Show me a private credit manager who reports something north of a one and a half percent default rate.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

How's that happen?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

Well, one of two things is true.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

Either in the aftermath of the great financial crisis, we have some private credit managers have invented a new way to underwrite credit, which avoids all losses, risks and defaults, or they are misleading you about what the actual default rate is.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

And how do they do that?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

Well, defaults are the most easily manipulated statistic in the world.