Andrew Milgram

is super interesting i think there's lots of ways to think about that the annuity driven investing profile is super interesting and it serves a real need and opportunity i think there are other composition of insurance assets out there that are also interesting that are probably less well explored at the moment

So I think there's a lot that's going to happen.

The world of asset management that I grew up in is not going to be the one that I exist in going forward.

We're undergoing a lot of change.

And I think the people who embrace that change are going to succeed.

And the people who live a comfortable life and are happy to play golf a couple of days a week and go have big, expensive lunches, that's probably not going to be the successful model going forward.

Right after my father passed away, this family that I still consider very dear to me, my mom was overwhelmed.

I had to tear up.

They could have had it actually.

They would take me to their house for breakfast every morning and they'd drive me to school.

And they really embraced me and provided a lot of stability to me at a really trying time.

There were other families that did the same thing.

That was a really, really tough moment.

And they leaned in.

I try to think about what I can do to pay forward that kindness.