Andrew Miller

Yeah.

A responsible human driver, I think, would absolutely have hit them, but would have known there was a human under the car and would have stayed put.

But the car didn't have a sensor underneath, and by dragging that person exacerbated their injuries.

That incident ended up killing the company.

It was not just the lawsuit, but they were a bit squirrely with the regulators who removed their license to operate.

And General Motors said, we can't fund this anymore.

So it all got shut down.

One incident.

So I understand why the firms are being very gun-shy of assuming liability here.

But we need to insist upon it.

So because this is a new technology, regulators are absolutely holding a self-driving car to a much higher standard than a human-piloted or a human-operated car.

Some people find that obnoxious.

It's like you'd save lives on net.

As soon as it's better than average, let it rip because you'd be saving lives on net.

That's not how lawmakers think.

They don't think about, like, how do we get the best outcomes on net?

We get...

situation of like, no one can be blamed.

So they insist that it's got to be as safe as reasonably possible, like what an engineer calls six nines, 99.9999.

I don't think that's an unreasonable standard.