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Andrew Miller

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
434 total appearances

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Hard Fork
Interesting Times: Why Are We Still Driving?

On the one side, you've got...

Hard Fork
Interesting Times: Why Are We Still Driving?

You've got labor interests, and you've got Democratic lawmakers who are sensitive to labor concerns, wanting to go slow, but you've also got Democratic lawmakers who are sensitive to the plight of the most vulnerable, and they identify Uber drivers as one of those classes that isn't worthy of protection.

Hard Fork
Interesting Times: Why Are We Still Driving?

But on the other hand, you also have people who are concerned about

Hard Fork
Interesting Times: Why Are We Still Driving?

Spying.

Hard Fork
Interesting Times: Why Are We Still Driving?

The nature of a modern vehicle, and certainly a self-driving car, as we've already talked about it, it's got sensors going all the time.

Hard Fork
Interesting Times: Why Are We Still Driving?

It's collecting data of everywhere it goes all the time.

Hard Fork
Interesting Times: Why Are We Still Driving?

Who has access to that data?

Hard Fork
Interesting Times: Why Are We Still Driving?

Certainly the operator of the vehicle, the Waymos or the Teslas or the Zuxes of this world do.

Hard Fork
Interesting Times: Why Are We Still Driving?

And that means that a sufficiently motivated bad actor could get them as well.

Hard Fork
Interesting Times: Why Are We Still Driving?

Or, I mean, General Motors, just with conventional vehicles, was selling all the data of everyone driving a GM car onto third parties, arguing that, well, we collected this data.

Hard Fork
Interesting Times: Why Are We Still Driving?

It's ours now.

Hard Fork
Interesting Times: Why Are We Still Driving?

We can sell it.

Hard Fork
Interesting Times: Why Are We Still Driving?

With a Waymo or a self-driving car, it's so much richer.

Hard Fork
Interesting Times: Why Are We Still Driving?

There's so much more potential for data capture.

Hard Fork
Interesting Times: Why Are We Still Driving?

And so civil libertarians and people with national concerted concerns have got, well, they've got questions.

Hard Fork
Interesting Times: Why Are We Still Driving?

So in that scenario, yeah, certainly the advent of LLMs means that we've unleashed super hacking.

Hard Fork
Interesting Times: Why Are We Still Driving?

The two points to make are, one, you couldn't control every car.

Hard Fork
Interesting Times: Why Are We Still Driving?

You'd have to hack into every one.

Hard Fork
Interesting Times: Why Are We Still Driving?

And as previously mentioned, the car is driving itself, so you'd need to find a very sophisticated way to confuse the car about its environment.

Hard Fork
Interesting Times: Why Are We Still Driving?

I know, technical expert, I think it could be done, but I think it'd be really hard to do.