Andrew Morantz

These are tech entrepreneurs, but even those people are often in the position of saying that somebody has to have some oversight over it.

Thank you so much.

I appreciate it.

So there are really fundamental things.

So the trial that's getting underway now in Oakland largely hinges on this fact that OpenAI was started as a nonprofit and then through a variety of sort of corporate restructuring maneuvers, which ultimately took a decade, only culminating last year, was it converted fully to a for-profit.

And a lot of people, including Elon Musk, say that this was a kind of long con, that this was, you know, Sam Altman kind of conning him, Elon Musk, out of his money.

But

These basic questions of what OpenAI is, is it a nonprofit or a for-profit?

Is it as it was originally intended?

proposed to be a safety-focused AI research lab, or is it now one of the biggest hyperscalers in the world, kind of pushing forward the envelope of how quickly this technology can race to potentially superhuman intelligence, right?

These are fundamental changes that can't really be reconciled as just matters of gradual opinion shifting.

So to take the AI safety question,

You know, this company was premised on some very, very scary sounding rhetoric about how AI, either through becoming sentient or not becoming sentient, but just through developing more and more kind of power on its own accord, could pose a literally existential threat to humanity.

This was the rhetoric that Sam Altman, among other co-founders, used repeatedly.

Again, internally, externally, with regulators, with potential employees,

Now, when you listen to Sam Altman talk about it, he basically talks about that kind of doomerist rhetoric as like hype and sort of, you know, why is everyone so freaked out?

And to the extent that people are freaked out by that stuff, it's because people like Sam Altman were pushing that rhetoric in the first place.

There are definitely personal egos at play for sure.

It seems like Sam and Elon cannot get along.

It seems like Sam Altman and Dario Amadei, who runs Anthropic, it seems like they have such a hard time getting along that even when they were standing next to each other on a stage in India, they couldn't bring themselves to clutch hands together for a second, you know, and they kind of awkwardly held their hands next to each other.