Andrew Revkin

And this is just like we were talking with climate.

There's the real-time question and the long-term question.

And there's the people who are just facing the need to get through the day and be healthy and survive and have enough food, which is not integrated sufficiently at all into the climate, stop climate change debate.

And those who are trying to cut CO2, which will have a benefit in the future by limiting the fat tail outcomes of this

journey we're on.

So when I think about the Anthropocene, I think about this planet.

I love that we're here right now.

I love that our species has these capacities.

I would love for there to be a little bit more reflection in where things come from and where they might go.

Whether you're a student, a kid,

What's your role?

The wonderful thing about the complexity of it is everyone can play a role.

If you're an artist or a designer or an architect or an economist or a podcaster,

Whatever you do, just tweak a little bit toward examining these questions, stepping back from the simplistic label throwing toward what actually is the problem in front of me, whether it's in Pakistan or in Boston or wherever, you know, Florida.

And get them connected to all these gifts.

Yes.

I have these memories of... I was reporting on the next big earthquake that's going to devastate Istanbul in 2009.

I was in a slum, immigrant, poor neighborhood, and walking around with an engineer pointing out to the buildings that were going to fall down.

This is all known.

There was an earthquake in 1999, and the next one's coming.